This makes a lot of sense. Thanks Paul.
I'll try it out and get back if I have any trouble.
Thanks again.
Vikas
Subject: Re: Problems with debian install From: Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:56:38 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 09:00:21AM +0530, Vikas Rawal wrote:
But Sarge seems to be available only for netinstall. I am going to have to install debian (if it succeeds) on a number of machines in a computer lab. Netinstall is no good for that. I want to do it with the full set of CDs.
You probably will never need much of the stuff on the seven CDs. Debian
contains many pre-compiled packages of user software which fill most of
the space. For Sarge, the number of CDs will be even larger once it is
released.
If you are intending to set up a computer lab, do you have plans to network
the computers and give them any access to the internet? If you plan to network them, you should consider the following approach:
1. Do a netinstall of Sarge on the computer that will be the administrator/ instructor workstation.
2. Install apt-proxy on this computer. Set it up to get packages from a nearby Debian repository (i.e. not half way around the World).
3. Adjust /etc/apt/sources.list to get Debian packages through this proxy. 3a. Install some more packages to ensure that your proxy is working properly.
4. For the next machine, make netinstall address its requests for downloads to the local apt-proxy. The proxy will retain copies of everything that is needed for all subsequent machines.
5. Continue to do netinstall on all subsequent machines. These installs will procede at local area network (LAN) speed, which is almost as fast as reading from a CD, and does not involve any delays as you switch from one CD to the next.
If this doesn't make sense, ask questions and I will attempt to clarify.
HTH
I downloaded the CD ISO images from the website of debian (http://www.debian.org/distrib/cd). The website does not say that they are distributing "woody". I know about the stable, testing, unstable versions of debian. But this particular page does not even mention which is the one that I got. In fact, I was under the impression that in 7 huge isos that I had to download, I would have pretty much gotten everything. That is obviously not true.
Vikas
Clive Menzies wrote:
On (13/10/04 16:16), Vikas Rawal wrote:
I am new to debian but have some experience with Redhat 9.
I would like to install debian on a Compaq PIII machine. I have the 7 CDs (downloaded ISOs and burnt CDs without trouble). But when I try to install, pretty soon it gives a message to the effect that debootstrap returned an error (1) and brings me back to a menu from where there is nowhere to go.
This obviously does not look like enough information to be able to say very much on the issue. But may be somebody will be able to give me a lead to follow and tell me where to look for the solution.
Vikas
Hi Vikas
It sounds as though you are installing "woody" which is the current stable version. You might have better luck with "sarge" which is the current testing release soon to go stable.
Have a look at:
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
Regards
Clive
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Subject: Re: where do I download Unstable from? From: Olle Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:12:33 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thursday 14 October 2004 06.27, H. S. wrote:
Apparently, _Jeff Golden_, on 10/14/04 00:23,typed:
When I installed unstable I couldn't find a way to do it directly
either. I ended up suing the sarge install business card iso and
doing a dist-upgrade after a minimal sarge install. This may not
work if you are not on broadband but if you aren't on broadband it
probably isn't a great idea to use SID anyway because of the
frequent updates.
I am on broadband. And I used a similar method. Started installation from Testing CD I got with jidgo, then changed the distribution and sources.list file to do dist-upgrade to Unstable.
sigh ... no CD images of Sid.
It's probably because unstable keeps changing all the time (ie no real releases) that there are no CD images available. They would never be up-to-date if there were.
Olle
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Subject: Re: compile src or make .deb pkg? From: John L Fjellstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 20:41:37 -0700 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
So what do you on debian if you want a newer version of a program or a
program that isnt in apt-get's list at all, just go get the src and
compile it?
I would probably check if it's in something like backports.org. Otherwise, I might add the src for Sid, and download, compile and install that that. Lastly, I just get the original package and compile and install that (but only if there are no other packages depending on it, like I used to do it with Gaim). If there are other packages that depends on it, I might create an equivs-debian package.
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Subject: Re: Firewall in Sarge From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas G. Phillips) Date: 14 Oct 2004 23:43:41 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adi Linden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
In Debian/Sarge, where is the appropriate place for some iptables rules to
deny access to some local ports?
On my system I put a firewall script in /etc/init.d and have it loaded on startup. But this is on a LAN. You may want to do things differently for dial-up.
-Doug
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Subject: Re: Secure Password Storage From: Dave Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:37:12 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 02:55:15PM -0500, Jacob S wrote:
I'll second the recommendation for keyring.On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:37:00 -0600 Torrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 12:28:35PM -0400, Icebiker wrote:
This isn't a linux or open license solution, but FWIW I've been very
happy using password vault software on my Palm to hold ~100
passwords and magic numbers. I'm using Dataviz's Password Plus, but
there are lots of them out there, and they're relatively cheap.
How about Keyring for Palm OS. That's about as cheap as you can get (free).
http://gnukeyring.sourceforge.net
hmm... This looks interesting. Any way to run something like this from a desktop? Even better if it has both a Linux and a Windows version, but since I can boot off the usb key to get into Linux, a Linux-only program would be fine too.
Jpilot gives you full editing access to the keyring under linux. There are a couple of read-only viewers for windows, but nothing r/w. It should be noted that in order to use these 'conduits' you have to hotsync your palm with the computer, which means that palm desktop software would have to be installed on each machine and the contents of your palm would be backed up to their HDs. This is probably not something that you want to do casually on machines you ocassionally use. If you can pull off the usb-linux trick this could be avoided.
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Subject: Re: Linux gamers with Matrox cards, speak up please! From: Clemens Schwaighofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:57:49 +0900 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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| I still don't think I should be rushing out to buy Doom 3, though.
well according to linuxhardware.org
[http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/12/1725246&mode=thread]
ATi isn't supported by the Doom III Linux port right now anyway.
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Subject: Re: Linux gamers with Matrox cards, speak up please! From: Clemens Schwaighofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 13:59:24 +0900 To: Debian User ML <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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| So can we hear from Matrox users about their experiences? | Particularly, from Linux gamers?
I have got a Matrox G400 (sadly only one head) on a PIII 650Mhz. Although the OpenGL Screensavers work much better and smoother than on my work PC (P4 1.6Ghz with a NV6 nVidia onboard card) I doubt I can play tuxracer or anything on there :)
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Subject: Re: Firewall in Sarge From: Adi Linden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:06:35 -0500 To: "Douglas G. Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On my system I put a firewall script in /etc/init.d and have it loaded on startup.
But this is on a LAN. You may want to do things differently for dial-up.
It's on a LAN. Sounds like everyone just rolls their own then, no standard place to stick iptables rules.
Adi
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Subject: Re: Firewall in Sarge From: "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 00:20:55 -0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Incoming from Adi Linden:
On my system I put a firewall script in /etc/init.d and have it loaded on startup.It's on a LAN. Sounds like everyone just rolls their own then, no standard
But this is on a LAN. You may want to do things differently for dial-up.
place to stick iptables rules.
What did I just say?!? On a LAN, you use something in /etc/network/if-up.d. When the network comes up, anything in there will be run, including your firewall script.
Geez!
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Subject: Re: Kernel 2.6.8.1 From: Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:59:07 +0530 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Monday 11 October 2004 07:39 pm, Raymond A. Meijer wrote:
This means -i think- that it can't *see* the ext3 partition but i
configured it to load in the kernel??
Have you enabled Ext2 as well (built-in, not as a module)?
I think it needs that in order to be able to boot from Ext3.
I don't think that's necessary. The original poster just needs initrd image if he's configured ext3 as a module
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Subject: hdparm -U From: "pir aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:22:16 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I now know, what I missed:
if (ioctl(fd, HDIO_UNREGISTER_HWIF, hwif))
Just the little ioctl() ;-)
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Subject: Re: Read AAC (.m4a) with xmms From: Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:38:54 +0200 To: Debian Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 22:10:09 +0200, Christophe Courtois
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to know if there is a way to play AAC file (.m4a from CDs ripped on a Mac for example) with XMMS. Is something already packaged ?
(This is already possible with mplayer and the packages from Marillat, but I prefer xmms).
Google is your friend: http://www.xmms.org/plugins.php?category=input
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Subject: Re: PHP not including From: Andrea Vettorello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:44:15 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:12:26 -0500, Michael Satterwhite
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a new installation of Debian Sid with Apache2 / PHP 4. PHP seems to be working fine - except that include() and require() are failing. The script that I'm trying to include is in the same directory as the page that is executing. When it hits the include statement, I get the error message:
Warning: main(): Failed opening 'connectDB.php' for inclusion
(include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear')
Never tried apache2 but if this is the exact error message, the '.:/usr/share/php:' part are suspicious, especially the initial dot ("."), i suggest you to try in your include statement to put the full path of the file, and to have a peek to the apache log.
in /var/www/apache2-default/lonestar/internetspecials.php on line 26
The owner and group of the included item is the same as the php script containing the include statement. Can anyone suggest what I'm missing in the config?
Andrea
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Subject: Evolution newsfeeds links don't work in Sarge From: Matthew Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:53:12 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Incoming newbie!
I have been working in Debian (Sarge) for a week, coming from Fedora.
I have found that the newsfeed links in Evolution summary page don't work.
Has anyone experienced a similar problem?
Regards,
Matthew Harris
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Subject: Re: compile src or make .deb pkg? From: "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:40:44 +0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey,
So what do you on debian if you want a newer version of a program or a
program that isnt in apt-get's list at all, just go get the src and
compile it? and it should be fine or would this makes things unstable?
If at all possible, you should not install anything in non-deb format, unless you exactly know what you are doing and how to do it without breaking consistency of your system.
In most cases a deb may be obtained. If you don't know yet how to create debs, educate yourself. It's not difficult. Just read new maintainer's guide :).
If you really have to install in non-deb format, install to some directories
that are not under dpkg control (/usr/local/ or /opt or better your home
directory).
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Subject: sendmail problem From: Sebastian Wild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:08:33 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi List,
I got a little sendmail problem.
Set up a sarge box for a customer. Installed sendmail onto it.
Now usually I could send mails from the console with it without configuring anything (except network of course *g*)
Now on this box it keeps failing :(
Error message is:
Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 67
In /var/log/mail.log it says:
Oct 15 07:59:40 povoden sendmail[5532]: i9F5xe3s005532: from=root, size=57, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<200410150559.i9F5x
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oct 15 07:59:41 povoden sm-mta[5533]: i9F5xe0p005533: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Unrecognized host name cronon.org.
Oct 15 07:59:41 povoden sendmail[5532]: i9F5xe3s005532: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=root (0/0), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:
00:01, mailer=relay, pri=30057, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=5.1.2, stat=User unknown
Oct 15 07:59:41 povoden sm-mta[5533]: i9F5xe0p005533: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=57, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=
ESMTP, daemon=MSP-v4, relay=localhost [127.0.0.1]
Oct 15 07:59:41 povoden sendmail[5532]: i9F5xe3s005532: i9F5xe3t005532: DSN: User unknown
Now the hostname cronon.org does exist and is resolvable from this box (if u do host on it it will give u the ip).
Also the user [EMAIL PROTECTED] exists - its the mailaddress I use to reeive mails and post on this list ;)
Also the hostname povoden.cronon.org is resolvable forwards and reverse.
And Sendmail Errorcode 67 don't tell me anything - nor does google :( Does anyone in here know what could be wrong?
cheers Sebastian
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