begin Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dedi ki: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>Is there a consensus about that? I mean, I've seen many people say that >>the newsgroup gateway is unidirectional (from mailinglist to gateway), >>and my own experience confirms that. > This is not a matter of opinions: the linux.debian.* mail2news gateway > *IS* bidirectional, full stop. > >>But in another post here, Marco d'Itri (who is the administrator of >>linux.* and runs bofh.it according to Pascal Hakim) says >> >>"If one reads a debian mailing list in a linux.debian.* group and >>wants to reply to the list he is supposed to followup to the newsgroup >>and NOT to directly reply to the list." > Yes. Mail replies will break threading. > The gateway is open to everyone with a valid email address, which is > something you would expect from users posting to a mailing list. > If somebody thinks that munging their address when posting to usenet > will keep it secret forever... well, they will quickly have to face > reality anyway. > The newsgroups are configured as moderated because this makes gating > easier and more robust, but posts are not manually moderated and are > either posted to the list and newsgroup after a few minutes or rejected > for technical reasons. > >>"Fortunatly, linux.* *IS* a bidirectional gateway, unless your news >>server is misconfigured.". >> >>I'm confused. Is the gateway bidirectional and is almost everyone's news >>server misconfigured? Is everyone doing something wrong? Or is it just me? > The number of users succesfully using with success the linux.* gateway > suggests that if there is a problem it exists only on a small number of > servers. (Actually I monitor my news server for unapproved articles, and > they are *very* uncommon nowadays.)
It's my first post here, and I'm having hard time trying to underderstand why linux.debian.* is being run as mailing list in the first place. I have no problems with moderation and revealing my mail address (it's my spam collector anyway). But SMTP is for mail, NNTP is for threaded discussions. I had once subscribed to several lists, and seeing how awfully inefficient it is for such things, I had summarily stopped all my list subscriptions, and I will not subscribe to a single list anymore, no matter what, as a principle. Using mail as a vehicle for threaded discussion, seems to me only good for a tightly knit closed group. I can't understand why a public, usenet-mirrored group should be implemented as a mail list. For added gatewaying complexities? To download all the message bodies that I wouldn't read? To always feel that paranoia that my message might not be gatewayed to mail subscribers? To provide some with an oportunity to fork? (I suspect it will turn into a trolling place). Why not simply a moderated plain and straight, simple usenet NG? P.S: It's my second trial. At first trial I used a fake mail address but correct "Reply-To". It bounced from moderation robot, and I don't know whether it's because Reply-To is not accepted, or because my registration was so new that it was not yet in effect. Is "Reply-To" accepted? -- Abdullah | aramazan@ | Ramazanoglu | myrealbox | ________________| D.0.T cöm |__ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
