On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Fri, 27 Aug 2004 02:21:44PM +1000, Tim Connors insinuated: > > Stefan O'Rear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:34:17 -0700: > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:23:07PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > > > > over the past few days, i've noticed that my system clock gets about > > > > ten to fifteen minutes slow over the course of a day. this is really > > > > weird! i've been using ntpdate to synchronize it with a timeserver > > > > whenever i notice it, and i put it in a once-a-day cron job, but i > > > > want my system to ALWAYS be on time. i'm confused as to what's > > > > causing this, and how i can fix it. any ideas? > > > > > > Perhaps your PIT is going south? (PIT = Programmable Interval Timer, > > > a variable-frequency timer usually set to 100HZ by Linux.) > > > > Nope. This seriously needs investigation. > > > > http://www.google.com/groups?selm=2qVhI-80D-5%40gated-at.bofh.it > > > > The one replyer said he didn't see anythign wrong. > > > > > > I had 2 machines with ntp packages and adjtimex querying two known > > good upstreams, plus three pool.ntp.org servers, that upon upgrade of > > sid a couple of weeks ago, broke at the rate of ~12 and ~14 seconds > > per 10 minutes (for my two machines, very constant for each), which > > was ~twice the rate that the OT reported). One went through a kernel > > reboot and the other didn't, so it wasn't a new kernel issue. > > Uninstalling ntp and adjtimex and reinstalling didn't fix. > > Uninstalling, *purging* (so drift file and config files gone), > > *rebooting*, and then reinstalling fixed. Doing one or the other of > > rebooting and purging was not good enough - the kernel keeps state in > > one case, and the ntp drift files etc keep state in the other case. > > wait, uninstalling what, and purging what? adjtime?
and ntp* > > I haven't tried to reproduce this, but things to note were the drift > > file *seemed* to have normal contents, the adjtime file was slightly > > off (but should only affect the hardware timer anyway, and was > > probably off because ntp was so confused - you can't calibrate the > > hardware clock off a faulty software clock). > > > > One other very clued in guy on the scary devil monastery also found > > this problem a day or two ago. I've been in communication with him, > > and it seems these are all related. There is a hard to trigger bug > > somewhere, but if you want to track it down, you'll prbablky need to > > reinstall old version of ntp and/or adjtimex and just keep working > > forwards and backwards until you trigger the bug again. > > right now, i've got: > > ii ntp 4.2.0a-11 > ii ntp-simple 4.1.0-8 > ii ntpdate 4.2.0a-11 > ii adjtimex 1.18-1.1 > > did you get a set of versions that works for you? Yep - I am now running ntp: Version: 1:4.2.0a-11 ntp-server: Version: 1:4.2.0a-11 ntp-simple: Version: 1:4.2.0a-11 ntpdate: Version: 1:4.2.0a-11 and no adjtimex (now) > and if this is a problem with these versions, should i file a bug? So I wonder if it was because of adjtimex? BTW, the problem did originally crop up with these versions (adjtimex was ... I don't know; it's not in my cache anymore) > hmm, this looks quite relevant: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=265839 > (i'm also running kernel 2.4.26-1, like the submitter of this bug). Same. Oh well, I don't need adjtimex (what's it's purpose when you have ntp and a hardware clock that isn't *too* bad?), so it looks like that is my workaround. -- TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ "This company performed an illegal operation but they will not be shut down." -- Scott Harshbarger from consumer lobby group on Microsoft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]