Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2004-06-23, John Summerfield penned:Sure. You have to take it out of service, but upgrading that box from 7.0 to 7.3 is/was supported which is as far as _I_ would go (didn't like 8.0 or 9).
David Fokkema wrote:
Please, no. Debian stable is rock solid, something RedHat, in my opinion, has never been able to achieve. I would love to hear from people who are still running a RedHat system older than two years. I know of a lot of people who are running such Debian systems and are satisfied with it, apart from the usual thoughts: oh, would that I had _both_ that stability _and_ the newer software. But still, they choose stability.
I've got three of these to care for: [EMAIL PROTECTED] summer]$ rpm -q redhat-release redhat-release-7.3-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] summer]$
and one running RHL 7.0 that I've already mentioned.
When you upgrade from 6.x to 7.x, or from 7.x to 8.x, can you do that? Just upgrade, as opposed to reinstall? This was something that seemed extraordinarily difficult when last I used RedHat, back in the dark ages.
Indeed, as I said, one can install RHL 7.3 packages on 7.0.
I don't recall upgrading major releases, but the docs said that it works, even from very old (4.x) to very new.
Come to think of it, I think I did upgrade 6.2 to 7.something.
1. I had my updates appearing on-site automatically before RH invented up2date.None of them has given any particular problems. We even had up2date
working on one of them, but for various reasons I didn't usually
bother with up2date.
Why not? I'm not trying to poke holes or anything -- but a lot of RH
enthusiasts point to up2date as a great tool. Why don't you like it?
2. It gets all the updates from RH servers. There are network and potential financial benefits to using local mirrors.
3. I don't like registering.
I used up2date on taroon (beta of RHL ES 3.0) and it's very nice except for point 2.
fwiw I was much amused when I first tried Knoppix (it was, I think, a
3.2 beta but it might have been 3.1). The hardware detection is done
with Red Hat's tools.
Why be amused? If RedHat licenses their stuff such that other systems
can use it, and it works, it would be foolish to reinvent the wheel.
That's one of the reasons people like open source so much.
I know. It was the thought of using RH tools to configure what is essentially a Debian system. Given how well RH detects hardware, I think it a great shame that the Debian project didn't use some of the RH tools to help installing Woody.
I can (and used to) install RHL 7.3 on arbitrary local-computershop hardware in fifteen minutes, fully automated.
I gather the name Ian Murdock has some significance here, and that he's connected to Progeny. Here's what Progeny says, "Red Hat'sŪ Anaconda is the standard installer among Linux distributions. Our port of Anaconda to Debian brings the familiar installation experience of Anaconda to the rest of the Linux world."
See http://platform.progeny.com/anaconda/
While I don't have any specific examples, I would be quite surprised if
RedHat doesn't incorporate some of Debian's work, too. Again, it would
be foolish not to.
Sure, I've seen bits in RHL attributed to Debian.
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