-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 October 2002 04:44 pm, Chip Rose wrote: > Greetings,
Salutations! > I just switched to deb3.0 from Mandrake8.0. I am beyond ecstatic with > it. The install was easy (used 7cds from Linux Central), user-friendly, > the defaults were acceptable even for a total beginner. I don't know a > whole lot about Linux even after my past several years of constant use - > the Redhat/Mandrake world has fogged my brain I guess. I am glad you found it so comfortable. I've been using Debian for almost 5 years now, and there is no end in sight to my personal learning curve :) > I've installed > and used Redhat 5.0, 5.1, 6.0, Mandrake 6.0 and 8.0 over the past few > years, and have been using Linux exclusively for that whole time. > Redhat crashed often, and was a mind-numbing puzzle to update RPM's and > figure out where things installed - nothing matched the Linux info I was > reading on the web. Mandrake was more graphical and easier - I tired of > puzzling over the thing - just wanted something stable, and I knew > (thought) that Linux was more stable and powerful than M$-Windows. But > despite its graphical ease, Mandrake crashed constantly! I thought it > was my flaky hardware (not!), and I despaired of using Linux. I had > often bragged to friends about how stable Linux was, how > resource-efficient, and how Linux users rarely had to turn their > computers off or reboot because of crashes. But it was practically a > lie! I was so embarrassed when my system would crash constantly, even > when no apps were running - yaaaghh! Similar thing just happened to me not long ago with an essay I was working on. Openoffice.org just wacked my system for no apparent reason. Frustration isn't a good enough word in my opinion! The crashes still sound like an alarming situation. Since the system crashed on both Mandrake and Redhat, I would think there must be some kind of connection. > I've been using Debian3.0 for 3 days now - fast and stable - tons of > packages that are easy to get and install. Already I've learned how to > start ppp from the console and how to do it via scripts > (chat/provider/pon/poff) - something I could never do in Mandrake/Redhat > - I normally just rely on kppp to do the job for me, and I never learned > anything in the process! Even rebooting my computer with Mandrake would > cause a kernel panic - I had to wait 5 minutes before turning my > computer back on or else Mandrake would freeze/kernel panic during the > boot. Doing a system halt would segfault under Mandrake! I couldn't > leave my computer on at the kdm logon screen - it would freeze the > entire system. Once I spent a long hour on the web creating an online > retirement plan with a lot of details, and then my computer just FROZE > UP and I lost everything! Yaaaghhhhh!! The list just goes on and on.. > I could talk your ear off with it all. One thing that popped into my mind reading this paragraph is the ext3 filesystem. I have converted all my boxes to ext3 and it is wonderful! This desktop computer doesn't die no matter what horrible things I subject it to. My laptop on the other hand has locked up a number of times. It is nice not having to endure the endless fsck's! It is very easy to convert your ext2 to ext3 if you are interested (providing you didn't install it at install time). > Normally I wouldn't have dared to type such a long note without first > saving it, in case Mandrake would crash and I'd lose all my wonderful > typing. Sorry for abusing bandwidth and list etiquette with this long > email - I'm just on cloud nine because I'm finally using a REAL Linux, > and I can now truthfully say: > LINUX IS UNBELIEVABLY POWERFUL AND STABLE!!!!! > Debian Linux that is! > > Thanks again for listening, > > Chip Rose No worries Chip. I see a few of these types of messages every now and again on debian-user, and they are always a pleasure to read. I am evaluating Mandrake 9.0 and Libranet 2.0 right now. I have old hardware and a fried harddrive, so it is not the kindest box to play with. Libranet (Debian based) installed after four harddisk time-outs that resulted in system crashes. It is amazing how well that little distro runs on this broken hardware! Mandrake never made it past the partitioning. The monitor would blank right after trying to do a normal install or low-res install, which left only a text install as the only option. So far, I'm not too impressed with Mandrake .. Heehee. I hope to find another (not so dead) harddisk to try it again with. Still, Libranet, with apt-get, was able to endure the repeated crashes and still produce a working system--that's the power of Debian I think! tatah - -- Jaye Inabnit<ARS ke6sls>A Debian-Gnu/Linux user If it's stupid, but works, it ain't stupid. 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