Hi.

= problem =
= some diagnostics =
= my attempts following the initial installation process =
= packages with failed installations =
= ideas for solutions =
= related emails on debian-user =


= problem =
 i cannot get any X server to start on the Debian 3.0r0 system i've
just installed with the i386 option and bf2.4 flavour. i can only
use the ALT-F[1-6] tty terminals.

= some diagnostics =
- i've installed Debian 3.0r0 from the 8 CDs, with flavour bf2.4,
following the 3.0 installation manual, on an Intel Celeron with an S3
Savage 4 graphics card built-in to the VIA motherboard.

- on reboot, i get the /etc/gdm/XKeepsCrashing script, which
offers me output, and i get nothing as a result. there's an offer
to log in as root and try to reconfigure, but it still fails.

- /etc/gdm/gdm.conf  
contains the line

StandardXServer=/usr/bin/X11/X

but the directory /usr/bin/X11 does not contain any file called
X 
though it does contain 130 executable files.
and the directory /usr/X11R6/bin also does not contain any file called
X 
though it does contain 130 executable files.

- the gdm daemon /usr/bin/gdm is running  

- output of running xinit:
prompt> 
prompt> xinit 

xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  no server "X" in PATH

Use the -- option, or make sure that /usr/X11R6/bin is in your path and
that "X" is a program or a link to the right type of server
for your display.  Possible server names include:

    XFree86     XFree86 displays

giving up.
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
prompt> 
prompt> 


- output of running
prompt>
prompt>xf86cfg
sh: /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86: No such file or directory
Failed to run "X -configure".
prompt>
prompt>


= my attempts following the initial installation process =
i ran /usr/bin/X11/xf86config, creating a file XF86Config 
using the characteristics of my monitor and copied this to 

/etc/X11/XF86Config

since no such file existed there from the default installation.

= packages with failed installations =
in section libs:
 kdebase-libs 2.2.2-14
 ... (other kde stuff)
in section utils:
 kab 2.2.2-9
 kpm 2.2.2-9
in section x11
 koffice 1.1.1-7
 koshell 1.1.1-7

[However, i'd prefer to use gnome than KDE, and i don't see
why some problems with some KDE applications should make it
impossible to find a server.]

= places searched for info =
Using lynx, i've looked through

/usr/share/gnome/help/gdm/C/index.html

and still don't know what's missing or what i should try.

= ideas for solutions =
- Is there an executable file missing?
- Is there a link/alias/etc between an apparent filename and
the correct filename missing somewhere?
- Could i be missing some basic concepts about what it means 
to start an X server...?

= related emails on debian-user =
There's a related message here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg00503.html
but i don't see how it helps me... :(

i tried this:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg00752.html
> Dunno why (or IF) this will work for you, but re-run "dpkg-reconfigure 
> xserver-xfree86" and this time select NOT to use the framebuffer.  I 
but only got:
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfree86 is not fully installed

i tried this:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg00801.html
> The real killer turned out to be the 1, 4, and 8 depth entries! I commented
> out all the planes except for the 4 and set the default depth to 4.  I got
> an immediate message saying that the driver didn't support that depth!  So I
> deleted the 1 and 4 depth sections and set the default depth to 8.  Bingo,
> at this point I was off to the races.  Deleted the 1, 4 and 15 depth
> sections; rebooted the system and there was joy.

and this:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200207/msg00762.html

> I had a similar problem.  X kept crashing, complaining that there was no
> correct screen size it could use (or something like that).  What I did
> was to edit the XF86Config-4 file generated and changed the screen
...
except that i called the file XF86Config and wrote it to /etc/X11/

Any ideas welcome...

boud



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