On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Noah Meyerhans <no...@debian.org> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 12:33:39AM +0200, Poison Bit wrote: >> In my experience: if a company does not perform operative system >> upgrades, the company does not have more than 5 years and does not >> understand how open source, and in special linux kernel, works. > > I'm certain I can name several large companies that have been around for > more than 5 years and whose services you rely on that do not perform os > upgrades on hardware once it enters production.
Unlisted N reason: or "does not care about network security" >> You can migrate data between service versions or environments, have >> rollbacks, backups and etc. > > Across a fleet of 15000 hosts? With no downtime? Without impacting the > schedule of whatever software you actually run on these hosts? Don't they got daily updates? are they network exposed? Don't they jump LTS neither never? >> The monolitic "one server, all services, never upgrade" maybe just an >> architecture issue, totally outside of the Debian issues. > > That's not what I'm describing at all. Those places can and should > upgrade. I'm talking 1 service to 1 host, multiplied by thousands. > These are the companies that want LTS support. That companies of that size, may want to help Debian to help them, keeping packages many years supported without being like a debian oldstable php. Maybe that companies may have ALL Debian developers happy and got the LTS as a result, good luck. > > noah > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFOjNzSYrVLjBFATsMRAn3YAJ4/UFmXXcDpOjS0tswUO10Qr8GzDwCeOqF/ > B2sMvKQI1+bEr4lZF9O1viw= > =obBh > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-security-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakdtd8q4t6mqbwopa4t_z_f9p-r5d6jr2txxuqphmat1d5g...@mail.gmail.com
