* Andreas Syka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020913 11:19]:
> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Geoff Crompton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> To: <debian-security@lists.debian.org>
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> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 1:42 AM
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> Subject: Re: "suspicious" apache log entries
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>
> > I can see that sending an email is an approriate legal, and
> > responsible course of action.
> > However to make his servers beep, you still need to perform an illegal
> > act of cracking into his box. Regardless of what you intend to do when
> > you get in there, it is still unauthorized access to the computer. If
> > it is legal to crack a box for 'good' reasons, what do you think the
> > real crackers will say there were doing if they get caught?
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>
>
> Ok, we had some posts saying that getting into someone's box and
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> making some noise to get the admins attention is comparable with walking in
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> someone house, sitting on the owners sofa and waiting / leaving a note on
> the
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> wall to tell him someone broke in - both is illegal unauthorized access.
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> Now that the owner is on holiday, his house is burning and my house is next
> to him
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> I should call the fire brigade to at least protect my own house and the
> police
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> - as I've seen someone who put the house on fire.
>
>
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> Writing emails to them did work up to now and the owner is still not
> reachable too.
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> The police is not interested - because there is a border between my house
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> and the burning one. I should try to contact the police "over there".
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>
>
> Right, its a bit stupid to use such comparison - but its somehow fun too.
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> The person on holiday is just called "standard M$-certified admin".
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> > Unless we could popularise running a 'alert-me-if-my-box-is-screwy'
> > daemon, which when it receives a message it beeps, displays a message,
> > and keeps beeping until an operator acks the message.
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>
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> Even ISPs do not really care about beeping boxed. When I carried my first
> holy
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> 4U-server to my ISP last year, I was really shocked. Tons of beeping
> RAID-cards /
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> power-supplies. They never would hear mine. And its really not a small ISP
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> (I guess the smaller ones would be able to act properly).
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> IMO the only proper solution would be to notify the person mentioned in the
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> RIPE-handle / Domain-handle and hope that someone is going to react.
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> Everything else is playing fire- policeman. Or some kind of self protection.
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>
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
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>
>
> best regards
>
> Andreas
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