[MFT set to d-curiosa, as this is utterly off-topic for d-security] On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 09:07:01PM +1000, David Pastern wrote: > On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 20:34 +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2005 at 07:02:55PM +1000, David Pastern wrote: > > > Redhat/Fedora/Suse/Mandrake are just plain silliness. However - there > > > is a big difference between a one year release cycle, and the fact that > > > it's been nearly 3 years since the release of Woody. That's a huge > > > > You're not the first person to observe that woody's getting a bit long in > > the tooth. We're working on a new release, an no amount of aimless > > commentary on the symptom is going to solve the problems. > > I know. Firstly though, it's not aimless, it's absolutely valid. Just
The two are not mutually exclusive. The complaint is valid -- Debian woody *is* out of date, relative to the state of the art, but your "discussing" it here is aimless (or, to be more exact, pointless). > because you don't like to hear something doesn't mean it's not valid. I don't like to hear it because it's been done before, it's been done better, and these comments do nothing to help resolve the situation. > The only way to fix a problem is for everyone to discuss it, and that > means the users and not just the developers. Please use the proper time and place to discuss the issue. In no way has the discussion of Sarge's release delays been "developer only", as long threads on various debian lists will attest. > Otherwise, Debian is just for the developers, and will continue to lose > users to other distros that consider their needs better. Maybe you can explain the logic behind threatening Debian with loss of users. I've never been able to understand the usefulness of it. Can you help me out? - Matt
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