On 19/01/11 at 12:44 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 08:33:02PM +0100]: > > > How is the compatibility between implementations right now? If a > > > package works across interpreters (it should be human-tested! Maybe > > > running its test suite with the different available interpreters would > > > do, although I don't want to do it for every uploaded package...), > > > > Why wouldn't you want to do it with every available interpreter? That's > > what is implemented in gem2deb currently. > > Run the test suite four times per package, once with each interpreter? > Well, of course it gives better coverage... But some test suites are > quite long to run. And if we reach a stage where the different > interpreters are compatible enough, it might be pointless. > > Also, it bloats our build-dependencies. If I have to install > traditional Ruby, Java (to get jruby) and Mono (to get IronRuby), and > whatever it takes to run Rubinius... Well, setups will be huge.
Who cares? I don't think that we should trade off quality for build time. > > > it can depend on ruby-interpreter. If it breaks, say, under jruby, > > > it could depend on ruby-traditional | rubinius. It would be a win > > > and would as you said, encourage advance and homogeneization of > > > the implementations. > > > > Well, if we use alternatives to select the ruby interpreter, a complex > > dependency scheme doesn't bring us anything, since it would still be > > possible for the users to shoot themselves in the foot. > > Do you think Ruby has reached a stability point where it can be > handled through alternatives? i.e. where a user can change > /usr/bin/ruby to point from ruby to jruby and expect random programs > not to break? No. But we could do like Java: support the default version, do our best with alternative implementations, but provide a way for users to switch implementations if they want to, since it makes it easier for them to test with several implementations. It's a very common request, and one that is fullfilled with RVM, which proves that there's interest for it. - Lucas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: http://lists.debian.org/[email protected]
