Emilio Pozuelo Monfort a écrit , Le 31/07/2014 00:34: > On 30/07/14 20:09, Gilles Filippini wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Please find an updated status below. >> >> I've filed a few more bugs for fixes to build systems which don't need >> any hint about the new hdf5 paths. >> >> I've uploaded a fix for #756108 to DELAYED/2. >> >> I've added a usertag "HDF5-transition" [1] to the bugs related to this >> transition, but not for bugs related to useless build depends, because >> they're not in our way. >> >> [1] >> <https://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/bts-usertags.cgi?tag=HDF5-transition&user=pini%40debian.org> >> >> I'll start tomorrow to file bugs with severity=wishlist + patches for >> the other packages. >> >> Please tell me what more could be needed. >> >> I've spent *many* hours these last weeks to prepare this transition >> (which is my first one BTW). And I'm committed to spent more hours to >> NMU as needed after the transition starts. I would be very disappointed >> in case it couldn't happen before the transition freeze. > > To be honest, the big number of packages that need sourceful uploads concerns > me, this close to the freeze. Other RT members have expressed me their concern > as well. > > Anyway... > > It seems to me like you're entangling two different transitions: > > - The new upstream release with a SONAME bump > - The changes to -dev packages to make the co-installable > > It seems to me like it's the second one (changes in -dev packages) that > requires > so many packages to be patched. Is that right? This is also what you care most > about and what you want to do before the freeze. > > Can't you find a way to make the rdeps work with both the current and the new > packages? See e.g. the perl 5.20 transition, where the paths are changing and > the rdeps need fixing, but those fixes are being done *beforehand* and they > work > with the old and new perl. Then when the transition starts, we'll only need > binNMUs. > > So if you care so much about this, one possibility would be to forget about > the > new upstream release to avoid the SONAME bump, and to get the rdeps fixed > beforehand. After most have been fixed, you change the paths as needed and NMU > the rdeps that didn't get fixed. If I have understood things correctly, no > packages will need binNMUs, so there won't be a transition needed for this. > You > just need to file the bugs and at some point do the switch and NMU what's > left. > > If you file the bugs now at severity important, ping the unfixed bugs in a > month, then in 1.5 or 2 months you change the paths and NMU the rest of the > fixes, you can get this done by mid-October. > > Hope what I said makes some sense; it is late and I am tired. > > But if you ask me about your current proposal, I'd honestly say it is too late > for jessie.
Thanks for sharing your views. I'd like to take my chance anyway since AIUI you're not giving a definitive NO-GO. To ease the transition I've updated (and tested) my patches so that they support both releases of hdf5. This way, once all the fixes are done, only binNMUs should remain to do. I've now filed bugs against all the packages requesting a fix. See the updated status below. Thanks, _g. = Package ready = cmor magics++ octave-bim octave-msh python-shogun syrthes vtk = Useless build depends on hdf5 (package ready anyway) = getdp #755973 insighttoolkit4 #756015 oasis3 #755681 slepc #755180 = binNMU required = armadillo dolfin mathgl nifti2dicom (after vtk6) nip2 (after vips) ovito (blocked by #756108) paraview (blocked by #756108) shogun vips (after libmatio) vtk6 (blocked by #756108) = Fix required - patch proposal ready = adios #756647 aster #756659 cdo #756660 code-saturne #756661 dynare #756704 exodusii #756421 feel++ #756435 flann #756471 gdal #756662 gmsh #756472 gnuplot-iostream #756705 gpiv #756663 gpivtools #756665 grads #756666 h5utils #756670 hdf-eos5 #756671 jhdf #756672 libcgns #756673 libgpiv #756674 libmatio #756675 libpdl-io-hdf5-perl #756676 libvigraimpex #756677 med-fichier #756678 meep #756679 meep-lam4 #756680 meep-mpich2 #756681 meep-mpi-default #756682 meep-openmpi #756683 minc #756684 mlpack #756706 mpb #756685 ncl #756686 netcdf #756687 nexus #756688 octave #756689 petsc #756690 pktools #756707 pygpiv #756692 pytables #756694 r-cran-hdf5 #756695 ruby-hdfeos5 #756696 salome-kernel #756697 scilab #756698 stimfit #756699 tessa #756700 xdmf #756701 xmds2 #756702 yorick-hdf5 #756703 = Depends on the removed hdf5 mpi-posix API = h5py #756668 silo-llnl #756713 not so easy but very low popcon (<80) = Others - Not in testing anyway = gnudatalanguage FTBFS blocked by plplot openmeeg FTBFS on sid - #730904 plplot FTBFS on sid - #713309 and more
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