On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:59:58 +0100 Michael Biebl <bi...@debian.org> wrote:
> Am 21.01.2013 02:32, schrieb Andres Salomon: > >>> A better approach imho would be to simply remove sysklogd from the > >>> archive. It's dead upstream, apparently no longer properly > >>> maintained in Debian, and there are enough more then suitable > >>> alternatives. With rsyslog we even have a drop-in replacement. > >>> > >> I've added a hint to remove it from wheezy. > > > > Hm. Rather than simply remove it, can we actually provide an > > upgrade path to rsyslog? I'd be happy to NMU a version of ksyslogd > > that does this in unstable (for consideration in wheezy), as long > > as rsyslog is truly a drop-in replacement. > > It was an explicit decision back then, to not remove sysklogd > automatically on upgrades. > If sysklogd/klogd are converted to transitional packages, which simply > pull in rsyslog, then any configuration changes should be migrated > over to then new config file, imo. > sysklogd uses /etc/syslog.conf and rsyslog /etc/rsyslog.conf *Nod*. > > > It seems that new squeeze installs default to using rsyslog. > > However, I still have several older systems that've been upgraded > > from earlier Debian releases that are still using ksyslogd/klogd. > > There's been no indication that ksyslogd had been deprecated in > > favor of something else. > > Something like > http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new#system-changes "We're switching to a new default syslogd" != "remove sysklogd (the old default syslogd), as it is deprecated and unmaintained". Debian's default MTA is exim; that doesn't mean postfix and sendmail are unmaintained. > > That said, a removal of the package is a clear indication that the > package is no longer maintained and should be replaced, isn't it? Yes, as long as one notices that the package is removed. Like I said, I wouldn't have noticed if not for a bug in the package. The package is still in sid. If it's slated to be dropped from the archive, I think it's worth either automating an upgrade to the replacement, or informing users.
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