On Sun, 03 Feb 08 15:26, Russ Allbery wrote: > Armin Berres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, 03 Feb 08 13:20, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> I don't think this is necessary. su-to-root falls back to su if none > >> of the other packages exist, and su is essential. Similarly, under X, > >> it falls back to x-terminal-emulator if none of the other packages > >> exist, and any X environment should have x-terminal-emulator. > > > > The problem I see here is, that currently a lot of packages which use > > su-to-root depend on something like "gksu | kdebase-bin | > > kdebase-runtime | sux". Now that parts of KDE 4 are around the > > dependency has to be changed to something like "gksu | kdebase-bin > > (<<4:4.0.0) | kdebase-runtime". When KDE 3 is no more the dependency on > > kdebase-bin can be completely removed and all the dependencies should be > > changed sooner or later. Same happens if a new *su alternative is > > around. It would be nice, if we would have a single place to change > > this kind of dependency. > > My point is that I think such a dependency may be wrong and possibly > shouldn't be included at all. Is it really necessary to have such a > dependency when su-to-root has fallback behavior should none of those > packages be available?
Good question. At least for KDE 4 Apps there is no Problem -- kdesu from KDE 4 is always around if kdelibs5 (the KDE 4 libraries) is installed. When you have a KDE 3 Desktop kdebase-bin is normally around so kdesu should be there. What about Gnome? Or Xfce? Is gksu installed by default? If yes I'd say programms should simply use su-to-root and not specify any dependency like the above at all. I'd also say that packages which just depend on a special *su implementation (just gksu and not kdebase-bin e.g.) should be considered buggy. There is no reason for a KDE user to install gksu and and no reason for a Gnome user to install kdebase-bin if there is already a *su implementation around. I don't know how many packages have this problem, but gparted just depends on gksu for example. I bet it could also use kdesu, if su-to-root would be used. Greetings, Armin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
