Hello Sebastian,
On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 06:23:20PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> Package: release.debian.org
> Control: affects -1 + src:xz-utils
> User: release.debian....@packages.debian.org
> Usertags: pu
> Tags: bullseye
> Severity: normal
> 
> This is a stable update of the xz-utils package as provide project's
> upstream (fixes only, no new features).
> A user visible change is that more localized man-pages (de, fr) and
> translations (es, pt, ro, …) for xz are available. The german man pages
> were provided by the manpages-de package (manpages-l10n source package)
> but were dropped shortly before the Bullseye release.

Correct, we discussed this in the past when we reviewed the
appropriate package relationships.

> xz-utils v5.2.7 to v5.2.9 was uploaded to unstable. Lessons learned:

> - the backport package of manpages-de and manpages-fr provides a
>   man page for xz. These files conflict with the one provided by
>   xz-utils package. The bpo package and xz-utils in Bookworm have proper
>   Breaks: and Replaces: relation to allow smooth upgrades.
>   This update of xz does not provide such a relation since the current
>   version of manpages-{de|fr} in Bullseye does not provide this
>   man page. As per testing, the Breaks: in manpages-{de|fr} forbids
>   installing of this xz-utils. My understanding is that once these
>   man pages are visible in Bullseye via xz-utils, the bpo packages of
>   manpages-l10n stops creating them as part of the build process. They
>   are not present in testing/ Bookworm version of the package.

No, we need to coordinate about this. You previously considered doing
a backport and I asked you several if this is still the case; since
you did not respond, I did not remove the conflicting pages in my
bullseye packport. 

As bookworm is about to release, I just wonder if that is really
necessary to introduce the translation files in your backport. I'm all
about translations, but this is a bit fragile with two backports with
all the upgrade paths. So hopefully we get this right.

If you still feel this is necessary for your users, then please
contact me and I can perform another upload with the file removed and
appropriate package relationships. (This implies you tell me the
version which introduces the files.)

Please tell me as well which translated man pages you ship, as there
are also Danish and Ukrainian ones in my backports.

Please not that I will not perform uploads to bullseye once bookworm
has been released.

Greetings

           Helge

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