Hi Thomas, On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 6:55 PM Thomas Goirand <z...@debian.org> wrote: > > Hi Damir, Sergei, the release team, > > First of all, thanks for your bug report, Damir. > > Debian Bullseye was released on the 14th of Aug. Then Erlang v24 was > uploaded on the 17th. Looking at: > > https://release.debian.org/transitions/ > > I cannot see any transition thingy opened for Erlang. This means that > Erlang was carelessly uploaded to Unstable:
Uploading new major version of Erlang does not require a transition. No application needs to be rebuilt against it, and only a minority breaks (those which use removed deprecated features, and they have to be updated or patched anyway). I'm sorry that elixir and rabbit-mq break. > > 1/ Without informing the release team, and defining a schedule for the > Erlang transition I insist that a transition is not necessary. > > 2/ Without rebuilding any reverse dependency, and more specifically, > without caring about RabbitMQ which is kind of a high profile server > application. > > Now, we have Erlang v24 in Unstable which looks like a good target for > RabbitMQ 3.9.4, however, this new version needs a new Elixir release, as > it has a bound of ">= 1.10.4 and < 1.13.0". Elixir as in unstable (ie: > 1.10.3) doesn't work, even when trying to convince RabbitMQ it's ok. Well, I would say that Elixir in Debian is not in a good shape. It lags way behind upstream (which is already 1.12.2, quite a few releases ahead). > > There isn't much I can do now. I'm opening a bug against Elixir, and > I'll have to wait for it to be solved... > > This isn't the first time something like this happen. Could we please > bring some sanity in the way we do things? Sergei, could you please > revert your upload of Erlang v24 in Unstable, and open a release team > bug to get a transition tracker thingy, which is the only sane way to do > things in Debian? > > Not amused... I've uploaded Erlang 24 to experimental months ago. If you know that your software breaks on Erlang upgrade, you could do something already. Cheers! -- Sergei Golovan
