Hello, On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, Lee Garrett wrote: > Unfortunately 2.10 didn't make it into bullseye in time (#984557). I tried > getting the unit tests from 2.9.16 to work with python 3.9, but I had to give > up. I don't feel comfortable with maintaining such a large package over the > lifecycle of bullseye without unit tests, official py3.9 support, and security > support running out in a few months, so please remove ansible from bullseye.
I know everybody is trying to do their best, in one side with ansible maintainance and on the other side with release management but this outcome is really not desirable. Shipping bullseye without a core system administration tool like ansible is not something that we should do. Our users are the clear losers of this situation (and thus Debian as a whole). Graham, can you please reconsider your position in #984557? Maybe have some broader discussion within the release team on whether an exception is to be made? I know exceptions are the doors to more arbitrary unblock requests but in general I have the feeling that we are too strict with such requests. It is important for maintainers of software that don't have intractable reverse dependencies to be able to push the last upstream release that can be reallistically supported for 5 years even when the release schedule is not 100% aligned with Debian (IMO sometimes we should even encourage the packaging of release candidates with the right to push the final releases through a stable update soon after). And when the upstream release schedule is not at fault, but something else is at fault, instead of punishing the maintainer that failed to act on time, maybe have some "recovery" mechanism where X DD can support the fact that having the (updated) package is important. By doing so they would sign up to help if anyhing goes wrong with this update during the release process. Cheers, -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Raphaël Hertzog <hert...@debian.org> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ The Debian Handbook: https://debian-handbook.info/get/ ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ Debian Long Term Support: https://deb.li/LTS
