On Wed, 18 Nov 2020, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 11/18/20 8:03 PM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > New OpenJDK versions tend to cause both buildtime and runtime breakages > > in reverse dependencies, some of them hard to resolve and requiring > > updates to new upstream versions which in turn require new dependencies > > that might not even be in Debian. > > New upstream versions likely do that, that's not an attribute of OpenJDK.
Which is why new upstream versions _generally_ don’t end up in stable. > What's your point? I think the point is about packages with the JDK in Build-Depends. The JDK has two use cases, one is people using it as JRE or JDK to independently develop software, the other is using it in B-D to build Debian packages (usually via default-jdk-headless). Making 17 available as the latter is certainly a no-go. Maybe that was what Adrian’s point was. I think your point is about making it available as the former, and so that people can test their things with it already, and to allow backporting packages that actually do need it. I think that is a good thing but perhaps bullseye-backports is indeed the better place for it (especially if the copying of binary packages into the suite to bootstrap is possible). I think nobody wants to switch default-jdk to 17 or even not ship 11 at all any more or stop supporting it during bullseye’s lifetime. Maybe that also was too implicit? bye, //mirabilos -- tarent solutions GmbH Rochusstraße 2-4, D-53123 Bonn • http://www.tarent.de/ Tel: +49 228 54881-393 • Fax: +49 228 54881-235 HRB 5168 (AG Bonn) • USt-ID (VAT): DE122264941 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Stefan Barth, Kai Ebenrett, Boris Esser, Alexander Steeg ************************************************* Mit unserem Consulting bieten wir Unternehmen maßgeschneiderte Angebote in Form von Beratung, Trainings sowie Workshops in den Bereichen Softwaretechnologie, IT Strategie und Architektur, Innovation und Umsetzung sowie Agile Organisation. Besuchen Sie uns auf https://www.tarent.de/consulting . Wir freuen uns auf Ihren Kontakt. *************************************************
