Hello, the release notes need to contain a note to users using the german locale along the lines:
The Debian Project apologies for the unfortunate german quoting on the command line interface. A solution is worked on, but unfortunately hasn't made it into Sarge. As a workaround, switching to a UTF-8 based locale will avoid the problem. Rational: The current quoting for german locales (german, swiss, austrian, ...) tries to mimic proper german quoting (if UTF-8 is not present) and fails miserably: Opening quotes: ,, Closing quotes: " The opening quotes use 2 characters, are visually clearly different from the closing quotes and users are confused because they read the opening quotes as "two commas" and not "opening quote". Consider [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/scratch/incoming/MO/jan02$ /bin/mv -iv bla ~ ,,bla" -> ,,/home/helge/bla" ,,bla" entfernt Bugs have been filled on this issue quite a while back ([1], [2]). The entire list [3] has expressed that the this behaviour is highly undesirable. Essentially two solutions have been proposed, and intensivly discussed[4]: A) Using the same quotes as in english, i.e., "" B) Using inversed french quotes »« The vast majority (c.f. the thread starting at [4]) believes that either solution is much better than the current state. However, the glibc-maintainers expressed concernes about diverging from upstream and pointed out that the bugs where minor and (implicitly) should be fixed at some later stage. Hence the appology is needed, since -- given Debians history -- users of stable employing a german locale will experience the (unambiguously perceived as ugly) quotes for the years to come. The (almost) complete discussion is archived both in various threads on debian-l10n-german and in the bug reports [1] and [2]. Please CC: me as I am not subscribed to debian-release. Greetings Helge [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=228486 [2} http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=235759 [3] http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-german/2004/07/msg00172.html [4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-german/2004/07/msg00149.html -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred gpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software "libre": http://www.freepatents.org/
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