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Subject: kdelibs4c2: Dependencies on libfam/gamin
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Package: kdelibs4c2
Version: 4:3.4.2-3
Severity: normal
kdelibs depends on libfam, which isn turn is also provided by
gamin, is it necessary this dependency? Doesn't kde use kernel's
dnotify if available?
I've observed that gamin sometimes consumes 100% even if the whole system is
idle (amarok seems to cause it) and must be killed. Installing fam is an
overkill. If it's true that kde works with dnotify/inotify I don't see any
advantages or reason to requiere gamin or FAM.
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Versions of packages kdelibs4c2 depends on:
ii kdelibs-bin 4:3.4.2-3 core binaries for all KDE applicat
ii kdelibs-data 4:3.4.2-3 core shared data for all KDE appli
ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.17-1 Library of functions for 2D graphi
ii libarts1c2 1.4.2-4 aRts sound system core components
ii libasound2 1.0.9-3 ALSA library
ii libaspell15 0.60.3-5 GNU Aspell spell-checker runtime l
ii libbz2-1.0 1.0.2-8.1 high-quality block-sorting file co
ii libc6 2.3.5-6 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii libcomerr2 1.38-2 common error description library
ii libcupsys2 1.1.23-12 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) -
ii libgamin0 [libfam0] 0.1.5-2 Client library for the gamin file
ii libgcc1 1:4.0.1-6 GCC support library
ii libice6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 Inter-Client Exchange library
ii libidn11 0.5.18-1 GNU libidn library, implementation
ii libjasper-1.701-1 1.701.0-2 The JasPer JPEG-2000 runtime libra
ii libjpeg62 6b-10 The Independent JPEG Group's JPEG
ii libkrb53 1.3.6-5 MIT Kerberos runtime libraries
ii libopenexr2c2 1.2.2-4 runtime files for the OpenEXR imag
ii libpcre3 6.3-1 Perl 5 Compatible Regular Expressi
ii libpng12-0 1.2.8rel-1 PNG library - runtime
ii libqt3-mt 3:3.3.4-8 Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime v
ii libsm6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 X Window System Session Management
ii libstdc++6 4.0.1-6 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii libtiff4 3.7.3-1 Tag Image File Format (TIFF) libra
ii libx11-6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 X Window System protocol client li
ii libxext6 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 X Window System miscellaneous exte
ii libxml2 2.6.21-1 GNOME XML library
ii libxrender1 1:0.9.0-2 X Rendering Extension client libra
ii libxslt1.1 1.1.14-1 XSLT processing library - runtime
ii xbase-clients 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 miscellaneous X clients
ii xlibs 6.8.2.dfsg.1-6 X Window System client libraries m
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3-4 compression library - runtime
kdelibs4c2 recommends no packages.
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On September 9, 2005 12:36, Ricardo Galli wrote:
> kdelibs depends on libfam, which isn turn is also provided by
> gamin, is it necessary this dependency? Doesn't kde use kernel's
> dnotify if available?
>
> I've observed that gamin sometimes consumes 100% even if the whole system
> is idle (amarok seems to cause it) and must be killed. Installing fam is
> an overkill. If it's true that kde works with dnotify/inotify I don't see
> any advantages or reason to requiere gamin or FAM.
This is not a bug. If you don't want gamin, don't install it. Install=20
libfam0 instead, but leave out the fam daemon (which is not in the libfam0=
=20
package). Without gamin or the fam daemon, KDE will fall back on dnotify,=20
or polling if your kernel is ancient.
Having said this, it is likely that KDE will be moving to gamin at some=20
undetermined point in the future, perhaps when gamin improves, perhaps in=20
conjunction with GNOME. At this point, KDE's built-in dnotify support would=
=20
no longer be used. Instead, KDE would use inotify/dnotify/polling through=20
gamin, depending on the kernel. Despite gamin's current problems, it does=20
support inotify, which is The Future (tm). KDE does not have built-in=20
inotify support.
Cheers,
Christopher Martin
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