On 00-12-12 Cord Beermann wrote: > Hallo! Du (Martin Michlmayr) hast geschrieben: > >* Christian Kurz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20001211 20:56]:
> >> If he doesn't answer till this date, you should take then his
> >> package over, but that's only my suggestion how to deal with the
> >> situation as we have no standard guide for this problems.
> I'm not a Debian-Developer (yet, i've applied) so i think i can't take
> it over (yet). The guy who 'maintains' the package i want, hasn't
Why not? You would just need someone who will sponsor the uploads for
you, till your application has been processed. This won't stop you from
taking the packages over.
> touched the Bugreports since 11 Nov 98. (he has fixed some bugs that
> date, but didn't close the Reports, i've done that 3 or 4 days ago.)
Oh, that's very bad style, especially since it's very easy to close open
bug reports, if you fix them in your package.
> He is also responsible for the mailx-package, which hasn't been
> touched by him since mid-98, although there were appearing some
> security-related bugs, which had to be fixed through NMUs.
Well, I think someone from the QA Team should look after the packages of
Loic Prylli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and try to contact him to get him
either to start working on the packages or otherwise give them away.
> >I think some guidelines should be developed. This question came up
> >quite often recently. I had the same problem a month ago, and there
> >was a posting to debian-mentors today asking the same...
> (ok, i'm new to these interna-lists of Debian, maybe my thoughts are
> thought many times on some lists, and also dumped into ground, for
> some good reasons. If this is the case, it would be nice if someone
> points me to the thread(s) in the mailarchive, so i can read it, and
> find out why i'm stupid ;-)
*g*
> Maybe there should be a 'ping mechanism' which sends every quarter of
> the year a mail-ping to a non-active Debian-Member (someone who
> doesn't write to lists, and hasn't open bugs to deal with) to which
> he/she has to respond.
No, this won't really work, since the inactive people would just answer
the email to pretend that they were still active. This doesn't give us
any real proof if the maintainer is still active working on his
packages or other parts of debian. Also a kind of this system is already
working. :)
> Also there should be a rule that developers have to add a response
> to an open bug within a month... (i'm not that happy with the bug-db,
> as it seems that often bugs won't be closed, but fixed, or they're
> simply ignored (maybe due to some disappeared developer.))
Well, bugs that are fixed but not closed can be sign for a NMU. If a NMU
is done the bugs will have a severity of fixed only, so that the
maintainers notices which bugs have been fixed by the NMU and then close
them after he has incorporated the changes into his sources. And I
wouldn't say that a bug who is open for a long time has been ignored by
the maintainer. Sometimes maintainers forget about open bug reports or
they are not able to fix the bug on their own. Also this rule is in my
humble opinion not a good idea, since it won't even work if you look at
the active developers.
> If there is no reaction the package(s) should be transfered to the
> QA-Group and marked 'Orphaned', because he can't (or don't want) match
> the quality demands of Debian.
No, that's the wrong way to go. The Debian QA Team will contact the
maintainer and try to find out first why his package look so
unmaintained and either encourage him to work again on his package or
after he refused to do any work for Debian, take actions to make sure
that the packages get a good shape.
> It is not that easy to become a Debian-Maintainer, and i think that
> those high expectations shouldn't end the day when one gets through
Agreed and that's why we have the QA Team, with some very encouraged
people trying to make sure that our distribution is becoming better
every day. :)
> it. I think Debian should also throw people out, if they can't (or
> want) match the Debian demands anymore. (Those people, who haven't got
Well, this is something that I also had once in mind, but currently I'm
not really sure about this and I think it's a topic that I will try to
discuss with Wichert.
> comments? flames?
See above?
Ciao
Christian
P.S.: Are you sometimes in IRC on #debian.de?
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