thoughts from a concerned maintainer On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 1:24 PM Matthias Klose <d...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > while we have not an 100% agreement to go ahead, I think we should aim for > 3.11. > > The following steps would be: > > - accept the current python3-defaults into > testing (adding 3.11 as supported) > - ask for a transition slot to upload (see #1026825) > python3-defaults with 3.11 as the default > - start the no-change NMUs > - file bug reports. > - fix issues > - let 3.11 as default migrate to testing. > > If things don't go as planned, we could default back to 3.10. Mostly that > would > be no-change uploads, however in the case of a 3.11 specific fix that doesn't > work for 3.10, these fixes would need reverting. I have no idea who many of > these we will introduce with this transition. > > Also we might want to ask for some freeze exceptions for third party > libraries, > that we can't fix before the feature freeze, unfortunately at this point we > cannot say which and how many packages would be affected.
from expressions like * "If things don't go as planned" * "no idea who many of these we will introduce with this transition." * "cannot say which and how many packages would be affected" it seems this email advocates for a "let's wing it"[1] type of transition. [1] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wing_it It appears there has been little work in preparing the work to introduce python3.11 from its maintainer, instead that works has been pushed downstream to maintainers. if we continue with the plan as described above, several python libraries/applications maintainers will be left with the short end of the stick and deal with an unknown amount of issues (upstream fixes not available, not ready and or/ not released, rushed, etc) with less than a month from the beginning of the transition freeze[2] [2] https://release.debian.org/bullseye/freeze_policy.html [2] also highlights at the very beginning "Plan your changes for bullseye", this change appears as if it was not planned and we should be skeptical to proceed without further (and in advance) understanding of the impact it may have on Bullseye. Regards, -- Sandro "morph" Tosi My website: http://sandrotosi.me/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi Twitter: https://twitter.com/sandrotosi
