[Paul Tagliamonte, 2016-01-22] > I'm sure if you had a real and honest conversation with Donnald, there'd > be middleground. I've never found him to be the sort to bully or ignore > technical arguments.
and why we cannot find a middle ground here? Did I say something bad about Donald? Quite the contrary, I think he's the best guy to talk to regarding pip/setuptools/distutils. > "Give me a thing I want and I'll fix this broken thing otherwise it'll > remain broken" is *NOT* how we do things in Debian. Flat out. This > isn't a game of poker, and the archive is not yours to bargain with. no, it's: "I already use too many hacks, but I will add another one if you bribe me" ;P There's nothing "broken" on our side, so I don't have to fix anything (other than educating our users to not shoot themselves in the foot) I want to help Daniel (I will even send a pull request if he wants), all I need is something for me in return (and I'm also OK with adding "Q: why don't you allow me to touch system files? A: because evil Piotr made me" to pip's FAQ) > I've never used my position on the ftpteam to bully someone into doing a > thing, and I seriously hope that was a bad joke about using your > position in DPMT/PAPT to get what you want. it's my time and I will do in my time whatever I want. If I want to add a hack to pybuild in my free time, I will do it when I want, you will not bully me into doing something you think is right! -- Piotr Ożarowski Debian GNU/Linux Developer www.ozarowski.pl www.griffith.cc www.debian.org GPG Fingerprint: 1D2F A898 58DA AF62 1786 2DF7 AEF6 F1A2 A745 7645