On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:16:02AM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Jan 27, 2012, at 03:38 PM, Brian Sutherland wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 08:36:40AM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> >> What if we proposed a hook to get DEFAULT_VERSION from a file or 
> >> environment
> >> variable?  Then at least on Debian systems we could provide that file in 
> >> our
> >> python-setuptools package, or set the envar in our d/rules files?  I'd
> >> probably prefer the former since it would allow us to specify the default
> >> version for the majority of Python packages.  The two aren't mutually
> >> exclusive, but I'm not sure both would be useful.
> >
> >I'm not sure it's more useful than just setting DEFAULT_VERSION to a
> >very old version. It's certainly more complex.
> 
> Yes, but it would allow us to "solve" this once, globally, rather than
> patching every upstream package that uses distribute_setup.py.  We can't
> control what upstreams do, but if we could make it easier to adhere to our own
> policies without patching upstream, all the better.

Hmm, I thought my solution would ""solve" this problem once globally" :)

But I realize that I was quite imprecise in my comment about DEFAULT_VERSION,
I think use_setuptools should do this kind of thing:

    DEFAULT_VERSION="0.6c11"
    MIN_ACCEPTABLE_VERSION='0.6b1' # very very old version with
                                   # hopefully not too many bugx

    def use_setuptools(version=MIN_ACCEPTABLE_VERSION):
        if setuptools_installed:
            if installed_setuptools_version < version:
                download(DEFAULT_VERSION)
        else:
            download(DEFAULT_VERSION)

Currently MIN_ACCEPTABLE_VERSION=DEFAULT_VERSION according to
http://peak.telecommunity.com/dist/ez_setup.py.

As I understand it, your suggestion is to allow Debian systems to
override MIN_ACCEPTABLE_VERSION. I don't think that's necessary to
"solve" the problem if the default for MIN_ACCEPTABLE_VERSION is
sufficiently old.

-- 
Brian Sutherland


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