On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Piotr Ożarowski <pi...@debian.org> wrote: > > Why I think derivatives should not add new versions? > * because it's mostly chasing numbers - I'm pretty sure there are not > more than 10 packages that require Python >= 2.6 and are not easy to > port to 2.5 in Ubuntu 10.04,
Backporting is a waste of time, Python 2.6 adds new tasty useful functions that I use for my packages and do not want to support Python 2.5. I won't add them to Debian, because: 1. No Python 2.6 2. I still do not know how 3. Non-Python toolchain is obscure 4. I do not feel like to wasting time learning Debian Policy Tomes 5. I already know virtualenv > * because when you have to convert hundreds of packages, without > checking them carefully (most packages in Ubuntu don't have maintainer > assigned to them) you end up with "fixes" like: > - disabling tests, Which tests can fail on newer Python versions? I though newer Pythons are backward compatible, except Py3k. > - breaking perfectly valid XS-Python-Version or debian/pyversions, Sorry, I am not DD. What is this perfection for? > - hardcoding "-I /usr/include/python2.6" in debian/rules (yes, 2.5 was > still in supported when I saw it) > or no fixes at all (>100 packages that FTBFS, ignoring broken > XS-Python-Version or debian/pyversions, packages that build > correctly, pass all tests... and do not work[1]), Looks like a major failure of Debian to be a common base for derivative distributions for Python apps. > * because new version often means changes in helper tools (cdbs, > debhelper, python-central, python-support) and you're risking the > situation where we will not like your implementation and will rewrite > them in incompatible way (and that will mean you will have to rewrite > them again), That's why helper tools should be Python based and crossplatform, like the Python itself. -- anatoly t. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik50jnr1irx5go15m0znilqmxrce_nr9-mrj...@mail.gmail.com
