Sandro,

sorry again if my comments seemed harsh and a bit too personal, I was having
a rough day and was a bit annoyed by the lack of response to any of my
prodding.
I'll do my best to assist where I can, Piotr has been so kind to help me get
started on updating the python-pymssql package.
Also, trust me, I'm not fond of m$ sql in any way, but I need the module at
my job to interface with some "legacy" systems ;)
Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction, I hope to provide some
kind of value for the debian-python team.

Best regards,

Jan G.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 22:24, Sandro Tosi <mo...@debian.org> wrote:

> Hi Jan,
>
> On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 19:34, Jan Geboers<hiding....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > thanks for replying.
>
> you're welcome.
>
> > I dont have much time right now to prepare a large piece on this,
> > but I wanted to say that I have tried to contact Josselin, both by email
> and
> > debian bug report, but no success so far.
>
> Probably because he has other (more important?) stuff to look at, at
> this stage of the release cycle.
>
> But you lacking time can show you that also other people may be in a
> period of low free time, so they dedicate their time to what they feel
> more important for the release and/or for our users. (and as personal
> note, a module to connect to M$ sql server doesn't look like too much
> "interesting").
>
> Also note that an RC bug can be fixed with a NMU: if you complain
> against something, you should be prepared to pay the price of it :)
> Now the package has been injected in the Debian Python  Modules Team:
> you are encouraged to join us and fix this bug, and prepare and
> accordingly upload.
>
> > I also tried to get in touch with Matthias Klose with regard to the state
> of
> > the python 2.6 package, but no reply came to that either.
>
>
> That's another story, sorry.
>
> > Even a short statement about the progress would be more than welcome,
> > or maybe a call for assistance on the specific parts of work that can be
> > done?
>
> We are also waiting for this statement to come.
>
> > But if both the python maintainer and the maintainer of the individual
> > package can't be bothered to reply to e-mails or read their bug report
> that
> > is marked critical,
> > what more can be done? It's hard to help if you have no clue about where
> the
> > problem or high workload is situated.
>
> I said above: for RC bugs (severity in ('grave', 'serious',
> 'critical')) provide a well-done NMU and you'll (almost :) ) find a
> sponsor to upload it.
>
> > Taking into account Josselin's charming personality I'm quite sure that
> he
> > wouldn't even accept an updated version of said package that I would
> provide
> > to him.
>
> You're again speculating (with another personal attach coming from the
> backdoor): you didn't even try to propose a package to him, so how
> could you know? Please do something "real" and then complain about
> that not being taken into account.
>
> > Personal attacks are not my intention, I hope my point of view isn't
> > interpreted as such, I just care about Debian as a whole, and the state
> of
> > python in Debian in particular.
>
> And the best way to achieve this is to actually *help* debian packages
> doing packaging work, bug triaging, etc etc.
>
> At this point, I really want to see you involved in what you are
> highlight as 2 problems. Else, you are forced to wait for some spare
> time to come to the relevant maintainers.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
> My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/
> Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi
>

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