Hello, On 23/06/2009 Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > In the last couple of weeks Brian Sutherland, Matthias Klose and I worked > together to improve the Zope packaging for Debian and Ubuntu. This e-mail > summarizes the problems we faced, the decisions that have been taken and the > changes that we will upload to experimental and unstable in the next weeks.
First, it's great to see some process in the zope maintenance. Thanks for your great work. > We also drop support for Zope 2 and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu, asking > for the removal of the packages from the distribution. I would like to object against that decision, but see below. > Zope 2 and Plone > ================ > > Zope 2 and Plone are obviously related, so the future of one of the two > influences the other one. > > The main problem for Zope2 is that the current stable upstream branch > (2.12) still requires pthon2.4. This is not acceptable in Debian and > Ubuntu, and Zope 2 is right now the only stopper for the removal of > python2.4 from both Debian and Ubuntu. As already mentioned by someone else, zope2.12 will support pyhton2.5 and python2.6. Thus it should no longer be a problem to have zope2.X in debian/ubuntu without python2.4. > Even worse, the current stable Plone releases requires Zope 2.10, which we > suppose will never support anything but python2.4 in the foreseeable > future. The new major upstream branch (Plone 4) is still far from being > released, which means > that the only way to support Plone and Zope 2.x in Debian and Ubuntu is to > keep python2.4 in the distribution. I don't use or know much about plone, so I cannot comment on here, but as mentioned by someone, there seems to be some process to support newer zope2 releases and python2.5+ as well. > For this reason, together with the upstream suggestions to use the unified > installer and zc.buildout as primary tools for deploying Zope 2 and Plone, > the Debian/Ubuntu Zope Team decided to drop support for Zope 2, Plone and > all the other Zope 2 products. We will file requests of removal for all the > Zope and Plone packages from the archive. I do think that the debian zope managment tools (dzhandle, zope-debhelper) do a great job, and I really would be sad to see them go. I already did some housekeeping maintenance work for zope2.{10,11} and zope-common in the past, and I intend to continue that work in the future. Maybe we could just remove zope2.10 from the archive now, wait until a zope2.12 release candidate is published, then upload that one, and finally remove zope2.11 and python2.4 as well? With that roadmap we at least would have one zope2 version in debian/unstable all the time. greetings, jonas
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