On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 10:29:56AM +0000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 01:33 -0500, Phillip J. Eby wrote: > [... long informative explanation of egg...] > In particular, will an egg wrapped inside a Debian package magically > install other bits of software not from Debian packages? Will it install > them in the correct places?
This is a dangerous practice from ore than one point of view: 1) it may pollute the system with non-DFSG-compliant stuff 2) as a both python developer and debian user and developer I DO NOT want software to download and run stuff without my knowledge and explicit consent > It sounds like egg's provide python specific package management focused > on development. All that "automatically pull in all the eggs of versions > **I** want" allows developers to specify bleeding edge dependencies and > not have to worry about dependencies of other things on the system. And in the long run this leads to many disasters. > Debian packages are more focused on stabilising for distribution > releases. It encourages/forces you to agree on particular versions of > everything for the whole system in a very controlled manner. > > I think they a both important. If I was using eggs, I'm not sure I'd > want them to be packaged as anything other than an egg until I was ready > to release, and then I'd want it **not** packaged as an egg, as a "proof > of it's release readiness". > > It's perhaps unfortunate that egg's bundle package management with > generic meta-data management. I know that package management uses > meta-data, but if it was implemented as one wrapped around the other, > you could "peel the package management layer off", leaving the metadata > management there, and you could produce clean deb's using only Debian > package management, but with the egg meta-data management still in > place. > > If you ever want to install stuff that is not in a Debian package, it > should be installed outside of the package-managed directories. On > Debian, this usually means anywhere in /home or /usr/local. I'd be > installing eggs in /usr/local until they were ready to be packaged as a > proper Debian package. but according to FHS /usr/local is a no-no for a package management to touch -- mors ab alto 0x46399138 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
