Hello, ZODB has its own source tree
http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/FrontPage and even sourceforge project http://sourceforge.net/projects/zodb/ It also has its usage without Zope http://www.zope.org/Documentation/Articles/ZODB1 I tried these examples but had some trouble get them working because I had to set some symlinks or environment variables. So I wonder if we should not provide an extra ZODB package which can be used separately from Zope - and will be used by Zope for sure. Moreover it comes to my mind whether Zope python modules really should be provided under /usr/lib/zope or if it would be better to install it under /usr/lib/python<version>/site-packages/zope In this case you might be able to use modules from Zope without any effort. Just some ideas - I really do not know whether this makes really any sense. Kind regards Andreas. -- Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. John F. Kennedy