I agree. I do, however, think it's at least as reasonable to assign blame for DMARC breaking all sorts of traditional email usage on users that use domains with restrictive DMARC policies as it is to blame the BTS.
If someone wants to change the Debian BTS to be more DMARC friendly, then they should probably work with the BTS maintainers to implement it. Inferring that the lack of progress is indicative of not wanting feedback is nonsense. In the meantime, users who want to successfully interact with the BTS have options (use a different email provider). BTS works fine with non-broken email systems. Scott K On January 3, 2024 4:31:58 AM UTC, Michael Neuffer <neuf...@neuffer.com> wrote: >By far most users in all likelihood do not know that something like even DMARC >exists. > >Do not discount them just because you know and can act accordingly. > >Cheers > Mike > > >Am 2. Januar 2024 20:10:27 MEZ schrieb Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com>: >> >> >>On January 2, 2024 6:04:18 PM UTC, Steven Robbins <st...@sumost.ca> wrote: >>>On Friday, December 29, 2023 2:18:41 P.M. CST Steven Robbins wrote: >>> >>> >>>> In the case of the BTS: it used to email me but that broke a couple years >>>> ago and apparently it is hard to fix. So currently a class of us don't get >>>> email from any bug reports. >>> >>>Andrey Rakhmatullin asked "what is that class?". >>> >>>It's unclear to me. From the last discussion [1], it seems like it should >>>be >>>everyone. Maybe it is everyone whose mail infrastructure looks at DMARC [2]? >>> >>>I think Sébastien Noel's 2021 note to the bug report is germane to this >>>discussion: >>> >>>""" >>>Same observation here: >>>DMARC aggregate reports notifies me that emails sends to the BTS >>>are not delivered to the final recipient. >>> >>>I should not be surprised anymore if bugreports are left un-answered, >>>maintainers are simply not getting notification... >>> >>>Since the last comment of this bug, 4 months have passed and no >>>reaction. >>>I suspect that nobody recieved the last email, and my guts tell me >>>that i'm writing to /dev/null rigth now :( >>> >>>Without a working BTS, i'm wondering : >>>Is the project still interested by users' feedback ? >>>""" >>> >>> >>>[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/09/msg00273.html >>>[2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754809 >>> >> >>Alternatively, BTS users that are interested in others getting their emails >>might be better off posting from a domain that doesn't have a DMARC policy >>that's designed to be used for domains that send only transactional email >>(i.e. no human users). It's working fine for me. >> >>Scott K >>
