On 2019/12/24 20:08, John Goerzen wrote: <snip> > But at the same time, I feel that the project as a whole isn't really > taking this problem very seriously.
That is true, probably mostly because many people don't really understand that there is a problem. The NEW queue waits are tough, but there are also the following which are also often in serious need of attention: * Patches attached to bug reports * Request for sponsorships * Merge requests Energy put into all areas like that end up paying for itself because it helps energize and attract new contributors. I try to keep up with sponsorship backlogs (making good strides but can't really keep up), which at the same time adds load to the NEW queue (11 of my and sponsoree packages stuck in there right now), which I feel kind of bad for so I've been trying to join as an FTP team trainee too to help out there (which I should probably try to follow-up again but that's also been a bit frustrating). I think many will agree with you that we should do better in all those areas, especially the NEW queue, but change is difficult and in itself takes time. In a commercial setting it would probably be easier to create incentives to motivate staff to do more review kind of work, but I suppose in Debian it's seen as somewhat unglamorous work and we don't have many methods to incentivise contributors. In particular I think it's important to support events like bug squashing parties because it's one of the few things that we can do, and encourage things like patch reviews, sponsoring and NEW queue reviews at these events and maybe even thank all the people who participate in these on a monthly basis in bits from Debian so that maybe this work can be highlighted more as something that we do value and might encourage more people to get involved there. -Jonathan -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) <jcc> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.
