>>>>> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk <b...@debian.org> writes:
>> >> Talking about the issues involved in paying people to do work. >> What the options are, collecting people's concerns etc. >> >> I actually think the first round of that can be done without >> significant access to numbers. >> >> That said, I'd sure like that anual report (actually I'd love it >> quarterly) you speak of above. I'm not volunteering. Are you? Adrian> My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this Adrian> is the most difficult part and will likely also be the most Adrian> controversial one. Ah, I was actually asking if you wanted to volunteer to work on the reports since you seemed to value them. I was only one quarter serious: if you did want to do that work, I'd be thrilled, but I didn't really expect it. I think it's actually impossible for a non-profit to reduce income from expenses. It's a lot easier to do fund raising when you can explain why you want the money. I think it's no accident that when people learned our sysadmin team no longer had hardware donors and was considering how expensive continuing their current strategy was, we got two very large donations, one of them intended to make that possible. Yeah, unless you want debt (which we almost certainly do not), income needs to lead expenses. But when people see you spending their money for purposes they believe in, it's easier for them to give you more. When they understand your needs they give more. I don't donate to Debian. (I do sort of donate to SPI, but I'm considering stopping). In both cases I value the organizations a lot, but I don't actually think they need my money. Both organizations seem to have funds adequate to meet their own expenses. So why should I give them my money? --Sam