On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 10:11:01AM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 01:30:17PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > > > Do we need explicit statements like this? I always had the impression > > that everyone feels free to ask people to improve their behaviour (at > > least in recent years) and that most people don't have a problem being > > asked to improve their behaviour. > > Agreed. It really should be expected to be the default, with no need of > stating explicit consent to it.
I agree as well, however, I *have* crossed this line (and I'm sorry about that, I really am) in the past, and I don't get much of a "stop, you're being a bit of a dick". Since I don't mind poking people off-list about their messages, (and I do do it, even without this little note here), I figured I'd make it absolutely clear that I expect (nay, request!) that others do the same to me. I do *not* want this to be "paperwork" that gives "permission" to people to do this, since I do agree with y'all. I might leave it up to see how people react, I have zero problem chalking this up to a loss :) > In part because it sort of implies that the default is that you can't > tell a friend if they're being stupid unless they have an explicit > statement in the signature saying that you can. I tried to use language that avoided implying this, I do agree the default is to send mail, but almost no one does it. > It would make logical sense, in this respect to have a signature saying > "Please don't tell me if I'm being stupid: I know I am"[2] but I don't > see this being usefully picked up anytime soon. Indeed. I wasn't pushing for this to become a project-wide thing on "opting-in" to the CoC, but rather, making explicit that I would prefer strongly to hear from people, regardless of their level of activity in Debian, when they think that I've crossed a line. Anyway, I'm open to anything, it's just a small idea and small experiment. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte <paul...@debian.org> | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag/conduct-statement.txt
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