On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 05:44:58PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:51:35AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Also in many cases, Ubuntu and Debian teams can't fully collaborate > > because they do not target the same upstream version, freezing at the same > > time should make it possible to achieve this goal. > I still see that Ubuntu gets more benefit from that decision. Also, > the release team's stunning silence to questions asked about their > decisions makes me wonder.
I'm a little bothered by the lack of release team involvement in the discussion, but I wonder if the reason isn't simply that it's probably pretty hard for them to pick a way of responding that won't be misinterpreted to fit folks predisposition to argue that "Ubuntu are thieves!" or "everything's always decided behind closed doors!" or similar. I don't know of a solution to that, beyond just accepting you'll be misinterpreted and responding anyway. Maybe a stylised debate would work -- ie, pick a couple of people who can debate civilly, randomly assign positions under consideration, and let them make the best arguments they can for those positions, then see what falls out. Basically, just like school debates, though with more points for substance than rhetoric. I'd find that fascinating to follow/participate in, personally. Alternatively, one of the ideas suggested while I was DPL that I didn't end up getting a chance to try was having regular "ask the DPL" sessions, where anyone can mail in questions, then every couple of weeks the DPL selects a few of them and gives answers. Kind of along the lines of Google Moderator, perhaps. Maybe something like that could be intriguing, anyway. Cheers, aj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org