Ana Guerrero a écrit : > Hi Lars, > > Thank you a lot for taking the time in drawing this nice proposal. > > I like it in overall, but with some little changes, that have been already > covered in previous emails. Still I am commenting them. > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:44:03AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > [...] >> I think we should go in the opposite direction: massively simplify >> the whole membership thing. >> > > Totally agree on this. > > [Huge part of the email removed] > >> Proposal >> -------- >> >> * People should be allowed to join Debian when there is reasonably >> wide-spread consensus that they agree with the project's goals, are >> committed to working on those goals, and are trustworthy. The best way >> to determine this is to have some number of people endorse a candidate. >> However, there should not be too much opposition to a candidate, either. >> >> Concrete proposal: max(Q, 20) endorsements, two existing members >> together can veto. The veto can be done anonymously via the Debian >> Account Manager to avoid peer pressure to not veto. The DAM only >> counts the endorsements and vetos, and does not make judgement calls. >> All endorsements and vetos must happen within 30 days. >> >> > > I think max (Q, 20) is a high number, maybe max (Q, 10) ? > And as well, 2 person vetoing seems like a small number, maybe 4 or 5? > > >> * Membership in the project gives both voting and upload rights. >> > > I think it is important everybody having the same rights, voting and > uploading power. Even if some people never will be interested in voting (I do > understand people who do not care about the DPL election), or you are an > translator who never will make a upload. > Still, documentation maintainers might want upload their docs package, > translators could do QA uploads adding translations and so on. You do not > really need so much skills for maintaning an easy package. > For example, a python module is really easy to maintain, and in case of > problems, you have the support of the python modules team where you can ask > or another member can easily help you since all it is team maintained. > > I expect this work because I hope when developers endorse somebody for > becoming > a member of the project, endorses somebody who not is only interested in the > project technically and philosophically, besides people who they trust and > have some common sense... > > >> * Membership ends 24 months after they're given, or after the latest >> participation in a vote arranged by the project's Secretary. Members >> may retire themselves earlier, of course. >> > > No, please, voting should be voluntary. >
On one side I understand that you don't want make voting mandatory, but I really like the idea of: - activity => you keep your membership - inactivity => you lose your membership Maybe we could find another way to define activity, like (upload || vote || svn commit || ...), which retrigger some time of memberships. -- .''`. Aurelien Jarno | GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 : :' : Debian developer | Electrical Engineer `. `' [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- people.debian.org/~aurel32 | www.aurel32.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
