Hi, On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:44:03AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > I do not like the way Joerg wants to change the way people become and > are members of the Debian project. It's not all bad, but on the whole it > makes some of the worst parts of Debian become worse. It concentrates > power into fewer hands, removes some of the benefits of the Debian > Maintainer process, adds more hoops to jump through, and makes the whole > question of what it means to be a member of Debian massively > complicated. <snip>
I wholeheartedly second this proposal (one question below). I believe that there is no alternative to making the membership structure/process _much_ simpler. Being a Debian Contributer (whatever that really is) for some years, I recently had more and more trouble to explain the different status groups to outsiders. With the addition of even more groups I fear that I would completely loose it. > Proposal > -------- > > * People should be allowed to join Debian when there is reasonably > wide-spread consensus that they agree with the project's goals, are > committed to working on those goals, and are trustworthy. The best way > to determine this is to have some number of people endorse a candidate. > However, there should not be too much opposition to a candidate, either. > > Concrete proposal: max(Q, 20) endorsements, two existing members > together can veto. The veto can be done anonymously via the Debian > Account Manager to avoid peer pressure to not veto. The DAM only > counts the endorsements and vetos, and does not make judgement calls. > All endorsements and vetos must happen within 30 days. > > * Membership in the project gives both voting and upload rights. > > * Membership ends 24 months after they're given, or after the latest > participation in a vote arranged by the project's Secretary. Members > may retire themselves earlier, of course. What does this mean? It automatically ends after a vote or two years? Or is it rather (semi)automatically extended by continued contributions of a yet to be defined type (e.g. package uploads, bug reports/fixes)? > * Members may be expelled via the normal General Resolution process, with > a simple majority. Ftpmasters may temporarily limit upload rights in an > emergency. > > * Membership is controlled via GnuPG keyrings, primarily maintained by the > Debian Account Manager. The keyrings shall be maintained in a way that > allows any member to change them, and that is fully transparent to the > members in general, and that further makes it easy to undo mistakes. > > * Upload sponsorships and the limited upload rights via the Debian > Maintainer status are unaffected by this proposal. Michael -- GPG key: 1024D/3144BE0F Michael Hanke http://apsy.gse.uni-magdeburg.de/hanke ICQ: 48230050 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
