Raphael Geissert wrote: > 2008/10/23 Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Raphael Geissert wrote: >>> Joerg Jaspert wrote: >>>> On 11547 March 1977, Raphael Geissert wrote: >>>>>> Debian Maintainer >>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>> They are allowed to upload their own (source) package. The allowed list >>>>>> of (source) packages to upload can be edited by any member of the NM >>>>>> committee[NMC], who will do a package check before they add new packages >>>>>> to the DM's list. >>>>> I believe everything is ok up to this point: why does the "NMC" need to >>>>> review the packages? I mean: has there been any problem with the current >>>>> way >>>>> DMs are allowed to upload? can't <the project> trust in DDs as to what >>>>> packages can DMs upload? >>>> We do trust DDs - everyone can become a member of the NM Committee, >>>> you just have to do a little AM work. >>> "...you just have to do a /little/ extra work" I would say. I don't think >>> that's >>> the right way to do it. >>> >>> If a "reviewing team" is really needed it should be built from the QA side, >>> not >>> from the management/NM side. Which would thereby have to drop the AM work >>> requirement and instead put some other sort of requirement, if >>> needed/wanted. >> The NM committee is composed of AMs which already completed doing a >> review process succesfully in the last couple of months. So I think it's >> only logical to ask them to review. I think a (prospective) DM is better >> served by such a (hopefully) proper review than a possibly less good >> review of a random DD. > > Right, but do the members of the NMC cover the wide variety of > programming languages? > or what kind of review are they going to do? just packaging stuff? if > it is just the latter it would be much easier and faster to send a RFC > to -mentors and let people scream out loud. > > And please note that I said "QA side", with which I didn't mean to > refer to the QA group, but to a variety of people who know what to > look at and how to do it; not a random AM who happens to have already > completed doing a review process successfully (which actually doesn't > guarantee that the AM is competent enough, as the usual NM process > consists on sending the templates and later reviewing the responses).
You're very wrong here. The AM's job is to review if someone would be capable of being a good Debian Developer. Reviewing responses to the templates is *not* the main job. Have the prospective DD learn things; get the prospective DD think and search before answering; and reviewing actual tasks and skills by reviewing the prospective DD's packages next to possible other 'tasks' takes most of the time. It's not at all about a questionaire where you only have to tick the right answers because that would defeat the spirit of the process. For many applicants it takes a long time because they think it's just a questionaire... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
