irc.oftc.net #debconf-salon_del_mar Aug 10 23:23:45 <Ganneff> someone please throw the speaker out of the window for me, DM is crap. thanks. :)) [...] Aug 11 00:14:05 <DrWeb> the whole "DM is broken" stuff is kind of late after the voting was done months ago Aug 11 00:14:50 <Clint> what? Aug 11 00:14:52 <kov> well, personal opinions do not need to change because a decision has been made Aug 11 00:15:04 <DrWeb> does the ftp-masters team do their homework btw? so this year this could be the first debconf without complaints about them? :) Aug 11 00:15:37 <kov> and there is always the possibility of going back on a decision; although I am in favor of DM, I do recognize the right of oposers to give their opinions on the issue =P Aug 11 00:16:51 <DrWeb> when i see ranting people and their so called "opinion" is not more than hot air, then i am not denying any rights when i find that immature and non-productive Aug 11 00:17:38 <DrWeb> after a majority vote you accept the circum- stanzes and try to help to make the best of it Aug 11 00:17:55 <Clint> that sounds rather fascist to me Aug 11 00:18:16 <DrWeb> Clint: hello, favourite UK comedian Aug 11 00:19:25 <Clint> DrWeb: who or what are you? Aug 11 00:19:39 <DrWeb> Clint: i could be as ironic as you if you want me to Aug 11 00:21:13 <Clint> there's nothing ironic about me calling that fascist Aug 11 00:21:24 <DrWeb> if you say so Aug 11 00:21:38 <Clint> it's authoritarian and oppressive to squelch dissent Aug 11 00:21:56 <DrWeb> that sounds not as bad as the fascist bullshit Aug 11 00:22:48 <DrWeb> i think almost all debian developers try an authoritarian tone in all kinds of situations Aug 11 00:22:59 <DrWeb> some of them are racist and some of them are fascist Aug 11 00:23:00 <Clint> it's exactly the same statement Aug 11 00:23:06 <DrWeb> but not by generalization Aug 11 00:23:43 <Clint> you are advocating that we shut up and put up with a decision that is harmful to our project and you're getting snippy about it Aug 11 00:24:10 <DrWeb> Clint: thats nonesense and if you are serious right now, then i get the feeling you try to troll me Aug 11 00:24:45 <Clint> did you not just personally attack the people who were arguing that DM is a crock of shit? Aug 11 00:25:14 <DrWeb> and if people like Ganneff feel in the position to decide what harms the project, what decisions should be reverted and if he is that popular for real, then he should go for next DPL Aug 11 00:25:56 <DrWeb> but i assume there will be lots of people who will cry about the majority vote that somebody like Ganneff should not be elected as DPL Aug 11 00:26:09 <Maulkin> DrWeb: done trolling yet? Aug 11 00:26:18 <ifvoid> DrWeb: who are you anyway? Aug 11 00:26:26 <ifvoid> please set realname to something sane Aug 11 00:26:42 <DrWeb> Maulkin: i was waiting for somebody like you to help Clint out here Aug 11 00:26:59 * Clint laughs. Aug 11 00:27:03 <DrWeb> ifvoid: can you see a realname set in Clint's client? Aug 11 00:27:22 <ifvoid> everyone knows who clint is Aug 11 00:27:22 <DrWeb> ifvoid: and who are _you_ to talk to me like a fascist? Aug 11 00:27:30 <ifvoid> uh what? Aug 11 00:27:34 <DrWeb> indeed Aug 11 00:27:36 <Clint> he is Bas Aug 11 00:28:02 <Maulkin> h01ger: permission to op myself? Aug 11 00:28:05 <DrWeb> its always the same clown faces no matter where mud fights and defacements are started Aug 11 00:28:22 <Clint> omg, it's paddy! Aug 11 00:28:23 <DrWeb> and Maulkin is most of the time happ[en/y] to defend his clown buddies Aug 11 00:28:29 * Maulkin gives channel operator status to Maulkin Aug 11 00:28:36 <Clint> hi paddy Aug 11 00:28:37 * Maulkin sets ban Aug 11 00:28:37 * You have been kicked by Maulkin
[...] Aug 11 00:37:38 <DrWeb> would somebody be so kind and approve my logs of this channel, that public defacements took place here, by calling people's comments fascist, by labeling people as troll and by abusing network priviledges to fix a dabate for another network representative who is too much of a german to have an opinion that is heard? Aug 11 00:37:52 * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [2nd network ban] [...] Aug 11 00:40:02 <Dr-Web> and to terminate access to a public chat network with the comment that i violated a network policy is more than ironic. you have to be very much of a clown face to go by such ethics Aug 11 00:40:10 * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [3rd network ban] [...] Aug 11 00:48:16 <YourWeb> i am wondering about only 1 thing. what happens to the pride of these "network representatives" who ban fast without any backup of the network policy, when somebody manages to hold a microphone to bdale's face one day, to get an answer from him, how this abuse is justified and covered by SPI Inc. Aug 11 00:48:27 <meebey> that guy is annoying Aug 11 00:48:51 <Marillion> YourWeb: go away Aug 11 00:48:54 <YourWeb> that interview will come [...] Aug 11 00:54:41 <YourWeb> some wise people put "no discrimination" in the free software guidelines. it was aimed at licenses of creative works in form of software. but i am still waiting for 1 single debian developer who can name me 1 single reason why discrimination targeted at other developers and users is so wide spread within the debian community Aug 11 00:55:45 <YourWeb> and i am not asking for the psychopathology of people like Ganneff, weasel, myon, Maulkin, Clint, etc. and why they are complete jerks towards other people Aug 11 00:56:10 <YourWeb> thats quite obvious and people without a certificate in any field can answer that Aug 11 00:56:42 * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [4th network ban] [...] Aug 11 01:11:18 <AnotherWeb> some people forget 1 thing. when projects are sponsored by donations, which are tax exempt, then that is only possible, because certain states see a public interest in that activity this public interest requires transparency regarding the activity that aims to be of public interest. Aug 11 01:11:18 <AnotherWeb> when a few hacker boys play war on the internet in the name of the Debian project and SPI Inc. officially backs that up, then we have a lot of material that needs to be discussed. Aug 11 01:11:36 * Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [5th network ban] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
