Am 2007-07-13 20:48:41, schrieb Malte Hahlbeck: > Michelle Konzack wrote: > > The new german LAW is talking about Software which was build to hack > > sites. "Security Software like nmap, nessus etc." are not build to > > do illegal hacking. (Greetings from my Advocat from Offenburg) > > But they could be used to prepare an attack. It talks about the software > and not the intention. That's the point.
Example of more which can illegalized: BaSH and wget Last week a friend gaved me a link to a Website <http://www-net-art.com/> where you can get FREE erotic pics by subscribing to a newsletter... OK I wrote a procmail recipe, a cronjob and BaSH script which 1) extract the 12 indes.html links from the incoming E-Mail 2) download each index.html with contents 3) spider the index.html and download the 20 big 140 kiB JPEG's per index.html 4) adapt the links in the index.html 5) create a main_index.html for all downloaded index.html. OK, downloading the stuff (~30 MiB/E-Mail) from the script take 15 minutes (ADSL 8 MBit). this can ce considered as a DoS on the Wen- Server and so the LAW can be made to illegalize BaSH and wget. Note: It is definitivly a DoD since my moroccan freind gaved me 27 E-Mails he has received in the last two month and I have downloaded the stuff at once... > The definition of the law is vague, so that it has to be judged to get > a "real" usable definition. Your lawyer should read the latest juritstic > comments on that law. We know it already but since I am involved in some Juridical stuff between France and Germany... you can simple overload the Justice and the Law will be very ridicoulous. (Collect or create real examples how to use standard tools to make illegal things and demonstrate it at the right time -- maybe directly in a Juridical Procedure; This is was a hint from two judges from Ofenburg and Freiburg) > > The german Justice can not do anything if I use the tools to secure > > my network. > > The text of this new law does not make this clear. Right, and my Lawyer told me the same but he told me so that even Judges and Attorneys would stop using it since the the justice can be simply DoS'ed with it. Only some not realy fit Judges/Attornyes would try to make the think "bigger" as it is. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ##################### Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
