Generally, I'm disappointed with what looks like a failure to address the "learning from the AM" culture which seems to be the main source of delay and frustration for everyone. I've made one suggestion about this already, but here's another: split AMs into a "fast track" who just process obviously-ready candidates quickly and a "slow track" who continue with the current months-long slog.
After a chat with Marc HE Brockschmidt, I've posted a new offer to sponsor to my debian web space and taken on two new maintainers already (but no uploads yet). I have also stopped refusing to advocate anyone, as I no longer believe current NM is much based on name recognition. I will try to work with the maintainers to get them obviously ready for NM and will comment publicly on this approach later. I'm disappointed that Bernhard R. Link criticised non-NM maintainers for not showing "enough commitment". Going through NM isn't mainly about commitment today. It's seen by some as being more about willingness to wait through months of frustration, neglect and contempt. Maybe showing that skill is A Good Thing that prepares NMs for dealing with some stubborn developers, but it shouldn't be primary. Does Bernhard R. Link criticise the maintainers he sponsors who aren't going for NM yet? Kev asked: > I would expect most NM folks to be on their best behavior while dealing > with folks judging them. What about a live test on #debian with DD(ops) > keeping notes on their skills while helping newbies for say a month. It's probably as good as any other test that's been suggested, whether in #debian or some other channel or system that suits their cultural skills better. It's less permanent than handling bugs.debian.org reports, but that also makes errors by learners less costly too. > (or see if the can last a few minutes in #debian-tech x-)) Arf! Have you been reading my web site? I'm not sure that I'd last many minutes in #debian-tech (unless I was silent). -- MJR/slef http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
