-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 09:43:57PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 02:36:58PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > >> Scripsit "Benj. Mako Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > It's argueably the most important right that is reserved for developers > >> > but it does not necessary stand to reason that it should be reserved > >> > only for those who engage in development. > > >> > I'd like to see those who have made long-term, sustained, and > >> > significant contributions to Debian enfranchised. > > >> How is "making long-term, sustained, and significant contributions to > >> Debian" _not_ "engaging in development"? > > > just to clarify, does 'engaging in development' equate to 'doing > > software related stuff' or could it include 'helping to improve the > > Debian organization in other ways'? > > As far as I'm aware, everything in Debian is software-related stuff in > that it all exists to enable and support the creation of a free > operating system. > Hi Henning, I see 'open source' as a means to create software. I see 'free software' as a means to create software and a community. Part of that community involves 'technical support' through ML's, IRC channels, writing DOCS, HOWTO's, WIKI's, Installfests, Conferences,.... because these contribute to Debian continuing to exist and grow. This is one reason why I would like to see Debian at least poll their opinion even if they never become enfranchised.
Also, ML's and IRC are the place users go before or instead of emailing the program author and complaining, so at least in some way we do help lessen the maintainers load and do support for his/her app. Obviously some of us do one email worth and some have done years worth. Also, I know that I and others always encourage users to submit bug report and install popcon, again this help debian. Imagine if debian had no ML or IRC, how would the maintainers deal with 100's of supports request? I was just reading something about creating a FLOSS project (by Mako) and thinking that Debian plays a unique role is the floss world. While most projects are created to 'scratch an itch'. Debian takes on the additional task of i18n and l10n while most upstream dont need to/want to/have the resources to. This makes translators an important part of the Debian community and they contributes to the further adoption of floss worldwide. 'software-related stuff' sounds ambigous. I'd love to see an enumerated list of what that represents. cheers, Kev - -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEM4cCv8UcC1qRZVMRAsn7AJ0R8oGOuGecncsIxcheBLyXIx/NiwCgjHAv dcEUXQsEjk+yuCO21dxafYw= =YeO3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
