On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 06:30:46PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:12:44PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > We would be most glad then if you would stop trying to harm it by > > > > involving all the members in a stupid flamewar on -project then. Trust > > > > me you are visibly doing harm. > > > > > > Attempting to work out the concerns of DDs and how the Debian trademark > > > should be used isn't exactly a 'stupid flamewar'. It almost certainly > > > will help Debian in the end as it's been shown that not having a clear > > > trademark policy certainly hurts Debian. > > > > No, you are wrong, this is a stupid flamewar over inter-personal dislikes or > > whatever of some UK guys, who have a misunderstanding about the debian-uk > > association, as happens in lot of associations i guess, and this is very > > very > > quickly gettting over anoying, so all UK-guys concerned, please stop being > > stuborn and prideful and whatever, and go speak with each other and stop > > making yourself ridicoulous in front of the wider debian community. > > It's not quite as simple as that, unfortunately. I'd be happier if it > was. I feel there is an issue regarding if Debian should be a > commercial or a non-commercial entity, and how that affects its branches > in other countries and accordingly the Debian trademark policy. It > happens that the DUS/Debian-UK/whatever people have pushed this issue to > the forefront by attempting to set up what appears to be a commercial > Debian branch in the UK but I don't feel this issue is really isolated > to them.
It seems to me they are selling t-shirts and whatever and the result of that money serves to buy more t-shirts and stuff, is donated to debian as UK-based money when asked by the DPL/SPI/whoever, and occasionally serves to pay beer for the anual barbeque or whatever. This doesn't strike me as much different than loads of other inon-profit associations (maybe thisis a frenchisism though ?) do in all legallity, and i see nothing there which really involves trademark or our attitude with regard commercial distributions. .From my overview of this discussion, it is just a petty person dispute between the "in" people and the "out" ones, and some critiziscm at the fact that debian-uk was setup slopily and in a way which may make random UK based DD liable (altough i guess any court would take the reasonable approach over the opt-out thingy, and not make those co-opted members liable, but IANAL). So, go solv your internal and interpersonal affairs between yourselves, or bring some more real problems here that warrant this long flamewar :) Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
