Em Qui, 2005-09-01 às 13:53 +0100, MJ Ray escreveu: > I think there are reasons to dislike it, not enough to act on: > * DUS was developed at a meeting for another purpose and just > announced to those (is Cambridge the new Vancouver?). > * It has a very weak link to the debian project. > * Its leadership discourage and belittle democratic control - > it looks like bureaucratic empire-building, to maximise the > number of members but have none of the responsibilities. > * Opt-out membership associations seem a very shady practice - > can anyone clearly opt-out without DUS recording personal data? > * Its beer-mat constitution does not cover some basic points. > * I doubt the will/ability of DUS to follow regulations. > * I don't like donations marked "debian" endangered. > * I'm not a fan of bureaucracy or hierarchy, nor do I see the > benefit of them for DUS. > * I don't like DUS carrying on business as "Debian-UK". > * DUS leaders and members suggest things are lies when they > are actually either different opinions or true.
I see nothing on this that can be considered a Debian (as "The Debian Project") problem, it's an internal problem of the Uk Debian Fellows Group (as groups around the world, which has their internal problems too), except for: > * I don't like DUS carrying on business as "Debian-UK". So, are you suggesting that every group around the world, such as debian-br, which does sell branding clothes and other stuff should take a different name? daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
