On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 04:13:08PM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote:
> >>>>> " " == Christian Surchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 06:30:10PM +0200, David N. Welton
> > wrote:
> ...
> > Maybe popularity-contest could help us. We know that pine and
> > netscape are very important. Mozilla exists, but what about
> > pine? It si possible to "muttify" pine, but is this enough?
>
> Is popularity-contest in any task package? It should be installed (or
> the user should be queried if its ok to be installed) on mail capable
> systems. Far to less users know of it I think.
perhaps MTAs should suggest it
>
> > Here a list of non-free software and possibile free
> > alternatives:
>
> > * acroread -> xdpf or xpdf-i
> Not yet.
you can use gv. It has its limitations though
>
> > * pgp -> gnupg (even if to handle older keys we need idea and
> > rsa modules that are not free)
> Isn't the patent running out soon?
>
> > * application made with xforms: xfmail -> there is archimedes,
> > clone in gtk, but not usable now
> anyone using it? What does the popularity contest say about it?
>
> > lyx -> ?
> klyx?
from lyx page:
KLyX is still beta, while LyX is stable.
and lyx is aming at toolkit independence, so things may improve in
the future (it is taking a bit longer than expected though).
>
> > * mpeg players: we have smpeg-gtv, so can we avoid ucbmpeg or xanim?
> I've used mpeg_encode regulary in the lost months. Just for that
> ucbmpeg is needed.
I have videos where smpeg does not recognise sound in them
>
> > * other video players, I think no alternatives, only xanim with its
> > modules
...
>
>
> As a conclusion one can only say, we need non-free.
>
no matter how some people do not like the idea, you are right
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