It may also be worthwhile to consider (force-)booting from Optical Drive on 
PMacs/ppc64 as selectable from the GRUB menu. The (former) Yaboot has this 
option. Discs of a Linux-nature may or may not be detected from OF, I have 
found.

It’s probably quite lofty already to consider FireWire and USB-booting from the 
GRUB, but maybe optical/super-drive-booting as a minimum?

Thank you,
MB


> On Oct 21, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Mark Balantzyan <mark.balantz...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> My bad, correction on my last reply-all:
> 
>> P.S. I understand that the new GRUB is likely not going to replace 
>> OpenFirmware, so I am requesting just to be able to still boot from USB + 
>> Firewire on the G5 Quad and USB on the G5 Dual 2.0 from the bootloader, and 
>> not have to manually drill into OF to do that.
> 
> 
> I meant still boot from USB + FW on the Quad and still boot from FireWire on 
> the G5 Dual 2.0, not still boot from USB on the G5 Dual! Arr, so confusing. 
> Sorry. Thanks.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2017, at 5:53 PM, Mark Balantzyan <mark.balantz...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:mark.balantz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Long time no…erm.
>> 
>> "We are actually working on making GRUB the default bootloader for Debian
>> powerpc and ppc64. It is already the default bootloader when installing
>> on PREP/CHRP PowerPC machines.
>> 
>> There is still some work to do for Apple NewWorld machines though but
>> I am confident that this will be finished within the next few weeks.”
>> 
>> For added compatibility, I would please like to put forward that my 
>> (NewWorld?) G5 PMacs, have not been designed to be able to boot from USB. 
>> Firewire yes, but not USB. Most definitely one of them, that’s for sure. 
>> Therefore, this may affect OpenFirmware awareness(es) required for 
>> implementation in the new GRUB code. Namely, I would like to say please 
>> implement whatever’s needed to allow say, a G5 Pmac Quad to still boot from 
>> USB + Firewire, and a G5 Pmac Dual 2.0 to still boot from firewire from both 
>> bootloader and OF (open firmware).
>> 
>> I would like to clarify that I haven’t tried any of the installer images 
>> yet, so this is not a report of the project’s current functionality, but of 
>> stuff as recent as a stuffed-up wheezy Jessie combo installation that I 
>> still have (not under use).
>> 
>> P.S. I understand that the new GRUB is likely not going to replace 
>> OpenFirmware, so I am requesting just to be able to still boot from USB + 
>> Firewire on the G5 Quad and USB on the G5 Dual 2.0 from the bootloader, and 
>> not have to manually drill into OF to do that.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mark 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2017, at 12:03 PM, John Ogness <powe...@ogness.net 
>>> <mailto:powe...@ogness.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2017-10-21, Tony Breeds <t...@bakeyournoodle.com 
>>> <mailto:t...@bakeyournoodle.com>> wrote:
>>>>> This reverts commit f7a364631f2a8975ecca56668a19ee0a66c1ddcd.
>>>>> 
>>>>> An iBook G4 (PowerBook6,5) was unable to boot when linking to the
>>>>> lower address. Revert back to 2MB.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Signed-off-by: John Ogness <powe...@ogness.net 
>>>>> <mailto:powe...@ogness.net>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> I could not find any references about _why_ yaboot was moved
>>>>> from 2MB to 1MB. I did not bother to see how low I could get
>>>>> it on my iBook. If 2MB is too high for some machine, I can
>>>>> investigate to see how low I can go.
>>>> 
>>>> This was done as 'large' kernels couldn't be loaded as the RMA was too
>>>> fragmented.  Moveing it down to 1MB reclaimed just enough that we were
>>>> fine.
>>>> 
>>>> I assume that the yaboot-mainline and 1.3.17-4 tests we made with the
>>>> same kernel/intrd combination.
>>> 
>>> Yes. From Debian/sid, linux-image-4.13.0-1-powerpc version 4.13.4-2.
>>> 
>>>> Can you get me a dump of your RMA memory properties and sizes of the
>>>> kernel and initrd?
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure what you mean by "RMA memory properties" or how best to
>>> "dump" them. Here is some information retrieved from OpenFirmware...
>>> 
>>> excerpt from 'printenv':
>>> real-mode? false
>>> real-base -1
>>> real-size -1
>>> load-base 0x800000
>>> virt-base -1
>>> virt-size -1
>>> ram-size 0x30000000
>>> 
>>> excerpt from 'dev /memory' '.properties':
>>> available 00003000 2fbed000
>>> 
>>> The initrd.img is 18,543,719 bytes.
>>> The decompressed initrd.img is 48,723,456 bytes.
>>> The vmlinux is 11,868,000 bytes.
>>> 
>>> John Ogness
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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