Correct me if I'm wrong, but in order to use atyfb you have to use the fbdev 
xorg driver. That's my main point.

Regarding "mach64" I just said it *may* not work properly when atyfb is loaded 
because it needs to access the hardware itself, so I would try disabling atyfb 
for a test. If I remember correctly, it uses offb for early startup console on 
Open Firmware systems anyway. I did not claim you need a KMS kernel module for 
"mach64". I was talking about the missing DRM module as explained in the linked 
article on the X.Org wiki.

But in any case, using fbdev should always work. The "mach64" driver may be 
broken because it's more or less orphaned.

Adrian

> On Mar 6, 2017, at 7:16 AM, Michel Dänzer <mic...@daenzer.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 06/03/17 02:29 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> Please re-read what I wrote. I never claimed it's a KMS driver.
> 
> Nor did I claim that you claimed that. Just what you wrote would make
> sense if mach64 was a KMS driver, but it doesn't because it's not.
> 
> 
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