On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:42:57PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:20:37PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 08:27:32PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > > Hi Joel > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 01:11:36AM +1200, Joel van Velden wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > > > > > I'd like to install debian onto an iMac G5, but im not sure where to > > > > start. > > > > > > > > > Either am I .. :) .. But if someone would donate me a G5 ( .... :) I'd > > > try to download a CD image from e.g. > > > http://debian.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-cd/images/3.1_r0a/powerpc/iso-cd/ > > > (if I was in New Zealand, that is) > > > > You could also try out this one : > > > > > > http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sid_d-i/powerpc/current/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso > > > > Which needs testing, and has a ppc64 2.6.12 kernel. > > [ ... ] > > Ah yes. So your message together with this page: > <http://debian-ppc64.alioth.debian.org/READ_ME> > looks to me like ppc64 isn't supported yet in > stable/testing/unstable. Please correct me someone if I'm wrong ..
debian-ppc64 web pages on alioth have absolutely no relationship in any way to what debian supports or not. The ppc64 alioth effort is a two-person effort to fork debian in order to have a pure-64 set of packages, even though benh and others have told us repeteadly that pure-64 is in general considerably slower and not-needed. Debian/sarge (stable) has support for ppc64 processors in the form of the 32bit power3/power4 kernels, and 32bit userland. Debian/etch|sid have now a biarch toolchain producing 32bit code by default and 64bit code with the -m64 code, this toolchain is now in etch, i believe, and is used to build the 2.6.12 debian official kernels (flavour powerpc64), which should go into etch this evening or pretty soon. Debian-installer has started to being adapted to 2.6.12 kernels (in fact the daily builds are now built using 2.6.12 kernels) but kernel-installer is somewhat flakey yet and needs fixing, and i think debian-cd needs adjustement to the new images, and this will be fixed at the latest during the d-i oldenbourg meeting sept 21. to 25. But you can without problem install sarge and upgrade to sid, or even use my backported udev packages together with the sid linux-image-2.6.12-powerpc64 packages. Or simply upgrade to etch/sid. > Anyway: > > Most packages for ppc64 seem to be ready for testing or unstable, > IINM .. Sure, and is a total waste of space, bandwidth and time, and will make your system slower, don't use it. > An excerpt from this READ_ME from the page above: > ------------------------------------------- > 6. Status of the PPC64 Port > > The ppc64 archive on alioth has about 95% of the source packages > from Debian 'unstable' compiled. > > Most of the missing packages fail to build because of serious bugs > which are not ppc64 specific. > ___________________________________________ yeah, and he introduced cruft related to his ppc64 effort into a non-negligible number of debian packages, which will later have to be removed, thanks very much. Just ignore that effort, and stay with the real thing. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
