X Stuck Again (Naturally) - ----- ----- ----------- In a little while from now If I'm not feeling any less sour I promise myself to treat myself And post to the list of power
(Apologies to Gilbert O'Sullivan) I finally got a working monitor (an Apple Multiple Scan 1705 Display) attached to the PowerComputing PowerTower Pro 225. So I went ahead and installed Debian "Woody" 3.0, just as I've done several times before on several machines (including this one). During the install process I was asked for the PCI bus address of the video card. If I recall correctly, in previous installs if I was asked this question there was a default value filled in which I simply accepted. But not so this time. It was blank. The installer offered the advice to use the `lspci' command to determine the address. So I popped to a different tty and tried that command. The output (appended below) doesn't have information for anything that is obviously a video card (at least to me), so I didn't enter anything, crossed my fingers, and went on with the install. Later on it (where I don't know what "it" was, but it looks similar to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sfree86) asked me for the brand of my video card. I don't know, but thought it might be ATI, so I chose "ati", crossed my fingers, and went on with the install. Well, not too suprisingly, X isn't happy with the video settings. The error messages appended below (from the log file; I've included the whole thing per the message it displays; would people prefer if it were an attachment?) were followed by X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). I have also included my XF86Config-4 file in case that's helpful. So, how do I find out what video card is in this thing, and what it's bus address, etc., is? While I can certainly open the box up and look at the card, the best that will give me is the brand. How do I find out the PCI bus address and the amount of VRAM? (I suspect that if I could boot into MacOS 9, Apple System Profiler would tell me the amount of VRAM and maybe even the brand, but I have not been able to figure out how to boot into either the OS 9 that is on one of the hard drives nor even from an OS 9 CD (holding down C didn't do the trick )-: ) Once I have that information, how do re-run the part of the installer that wants to know (or what file do I update manually)? (I suspect the answer here is `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86', but I got that from reading the archives, and the question that was being answered wasn't exactly the same.) Thanks for any advice. Can't understand why it's only Tux One could ever love leaves you shaken Leaving me to start X on a box so badly broken Despite encouragement from BLUG [1] I think this penguin's jokin' And when I lose this fight I'll cry and cry all night X stuck again, naturally X sucks again, naturally (For original lyrics see http://homepage.tinet.ie/~gilbertosullivan/2lyrics/alone_again.htm or http://users.cis.net/sammy/alonea.htm, which even has the tune in quicktime.) Note ---- [1] BLUG = Brown Linux User's Group Appendix: lspci output --------- ----- ------ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci -v | 00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. Bandit PowerPC host bridge (rev 03) | Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 | | 00:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20) | Subsystem: Netgear FA310TX | Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 25 | I/O ports at 0400 [disabled] | Memory at 80800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] | Expansion ROM at 80840000 [disabled] | | 00:10.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. Grand Central I/O (rev 02) | Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32 | Memory at f3000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci -vt | -[00]-+-0b.0 Apple Computer Inc. Bandit PowerPC host bridge | +-0f.0 Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX | \-10.0 Apple Computer Inc. Grand Central I/O | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Appendix: startx errors (/var/log/XFree86.0.log) --------- ------ ------ ------------------------ | This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any | way. Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted | to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, | please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository | (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) | | XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System | (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510) | Release Date: 21 December 2001 | If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is | newer than the above date, look for a newer version before | reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) | Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-powerpc-smp ppc [ELF] | Module Loader present | (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Sun Feb 23 20:14:36 2003 | (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" | Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, | (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, | (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. | (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" | (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) | (**) | |-->Monitor "Generic Monitor" | (**) | |-->Device "Generic Video Card" | (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" | (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" | (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" | (**) Option "XkbModel" "macintosh" | (**) XKB: model: "macintosh" | (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" | (**) XKB: layout: "us" | (==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled | (**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse" | (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Mouse" | (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. | Entry deleted from font path. | (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID". | Entry deleted from font path. | (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"). | (WW) `fonts.dir' not found (or not valid) in "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType". | Entry deleted from font path. | (Run 'mkfontdir' on "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"). | (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" | (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" | (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" | (--) using VT number 7 | | (WW) Cannot open APM | (II) Module ABI versions: | XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 | XFree86 Video Driver: 0.4 | XFree86 XInput driver : 0.2 | XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 | XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 | (II) Loader running on linux | (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a | (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer | ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 | (II) Loading font Bitmap | (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a | (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 | (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) | (II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 106b,0001 card 0000,0000 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 | (II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 11ad,0002 card 1385,f004 rev 20 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 | (II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 106b,0002 card 0000,0000 rev 02 class ff,00,00 hdr 00 | (II) PCI: End of PCI scan | (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a | (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 0.1.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 | (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" | (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a | (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: | (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) | (II) Bus 0 I/O range: | [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] | (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: | [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] | (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: | [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] | (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are | [0] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0xffffffff (0x0) MX[B] | [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0000ffff (0x10000) IX[B] | (II) OS-reported resource ranges: | [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] | [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] | [2] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] | [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] | (II) Active PCI resource ranges: | [0] -1 0 0xf3000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B]E | (II) Inactive PCI resource ranges: | [0] -1 0 0x80800000 - 0x80ffffff (0x800000) MX[B]E | [1] -1 0 0x00000400 - 0x000004ff (0x100) IX[B]E | (II) Active PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: | [0] -1 0 0xf3000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B]E | (II) Inactive PCI resource ranges after removing overlaps: | [0] -1 0 0x80800000 - 0x80ffffff (0x800000) MX[B]E | [1] -1 0 0x00000400 - 0x000004ff (0x100) IX[B]E | (II) OS-reported resource ranges after removing overlaps with PCI: | [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] | [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] | [2] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] | [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] | (II) All system resource ranges: | [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] | [1] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) MX[B] | [2] -1 0 0xf3000000 - 0xf3ffffff (0x1000000) MX[B]E | [3] -1 0 0x80800000 - 0x80ffffff (0x800000) MX[B]E | [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] | [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] | [6] -1 0 0x00000400 - 0x000004ff (0x100) IX[B]E | (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a | (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" | (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a | (II) Loading font Bitmap | (II) LoadModule: "dbe" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a | (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | Module class: XFree86 Server Extension | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER | (II) LoadModule: "ddc" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a | (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 | (II) LoadModule: "dri" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a | (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) Loading sub module "drm" | (II) LoadModule: "drm" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libdrm.a | (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI | (II) LoadModule: "extmod" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a | (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | Module class: XFree86 Server Extension | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) Loading extension SHAPE | (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD | (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS | (II) Loading extension SYNC | (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER | (II) Loading extension XC-MISC | (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension | (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc | (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA | (II) Loading extension DPMS | (II) Loading extension FontCache | (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP | (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information | (II) Loading extension XVideo | (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation | (II) LoadModule: "freetype" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a | (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.1.9 | Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer | ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 | (II) Loading font FreeType | (II) LoadModule: "glx" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a | (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) Loading sub module "GLcore" | (II) LoadModule: "GLcore" | (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a | (II) Loading extension GLX | (II) LoadModule: "int10" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a | (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 | (II) LoadModule: "pex5" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libpex5.a | (II) Module pex5: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | Module class: XFree86 Server Extension | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) Loading extension X3D-PEX | (II) LoadModule: "record" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a | (II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.13.0 | Module class: XFree86 Server Extension | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) Loading extension RECORD | (II) LoadModule: "speedo" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a | (II) Module speedo: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer | ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 | (II) Loading font Speedo | (II) LoadModule: "type1" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a | (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer | ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 | (II) Loading font Type1 | (II) Loading font CID | (II) LoadModule: "vbe" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a | (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 | (II) LoadModule: "xie" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxie.a | (II) Module xie: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | Module class: XFree86 Server Extension | ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 | (II) Loading extension XIE | (II) LoadModule: "ati" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o | (II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 6.3.6 | Module class: XFree86 Video Driver | ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.4 | (II) LoadModule: "mouse" | (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o | (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" | compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.0.0 | Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver | ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.2 | (II) ATI: ATI driver (version 6.3.6) for chipsets: ati | (II) R128: Driver for ATI Rage 128 chipsets: ATI Rage 128 RE (PCI), | ATI Rage 128 RF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RG (AGP), ATI Rage 128 RK (PCI), | ATI Rage 128 RL (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PD (PCI), | ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Pro PP (PCI), | ATI Rage 128 Pro PR (PCI), ATI Rage 128 Mobility LE (PCI), | ATI Rage 128 Mobility LF (AGP), ATI Rage 128 Mobility MF (AGP), | ATI Rage 128 Mobility ML (AGP) | (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP), | ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), | ATI Radeon VE (AGP) | (II) ATI: Candidate "Device" section "Generic Video Card". | (EE) No devices detected. | | Fatal server error: | no screens found | | When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send | the full server output, not just the last messages. | This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.0.log". | Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Appendix: X settings (/etc/X11/XF86Config-4) --------- - -------- ----------------------- | ### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION | # XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the | # Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database. | # | # Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page. | # (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.) | # | # If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes | # before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the | # "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below. | # | # To change things within the debconf section, run the command: | # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 | # as root. Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated | # XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz. | | Section "Files" | FontPath "unix/:7100" # local font server | # if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc" | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1" | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo" | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi" | FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" | # next 2 added 2003-02-23 by Syd because some installer dselect was | # running told me to | FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID" | FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" | EndSection | | Section "Module" | Load "GLcore" | Load "bitmap" | Load "dbe" | Load "ddc" | Load "dri" | Load "extmod" | Load "freetype" | Load "glx" | Load "int10" | Load "pex5" | Load "record" | Load "speedo" | Load "type1" | Load "vbe" | Load "xie" | EndSection | | Section "InputDevice" | Identifier "Generic Keyboard" | Driver "keyboard" | Option "CoreKeyboard" | Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" | Option "XkbModel" "macintosh" | Option "XkbLayout" "us" | EndSection | | Section "InputDevice" | Identifier "Configured Mouse" | Driver "mouse" | Option "CorePointer" | Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" | Option "Protocol" "PS/2" | Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" | Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" | EndSection | | Section "InputDevice" | Identifier "Generic Mouse" | Driver "mouse" | Option "SendCoreEvents" "true" | Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" | Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" | Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" | Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" | EndSection | | Section "Device" | Identifier "Generic Video Card" | Driver "ati" | Option "UseFBDev" "true" | EndSection | | Section "Monitor" | Identifier "Generic Monitor" | HorizSync 30-57 | VertRefresh 43-72 | Option "DPMS" | EndSection | | Section "Screen" | Identifier "Default Screen" | Device "Generic Video Card" | Monitor "Generic Monitor" | DefaultDepth 24 | SubSection "Display" | Depth 1 | Modes "1024x768" "640x480" | EndSubSection | SubSection "Display" | Depth 4 | Modes "1024x768" "640x480" | EndSubSection | SubSection "Display" | Depth 8 | Modes "1024x768" "640x480" | EndSubSection | SubSection "Display" | Depth 15 | Modes "1024x768" "640x480" | EndSubSection | SubSection "Display" | Depth 16 | Modes "1024x768" "640x480" | EndSubSection | SubSection "Display" | Depth 24 | Modes "1024x768" "640x480" | EndSubSection | EndSection | | Section "ServerLayout" | Identifier "Default Layout" | Screen "Default Screen" | InputDevice "Generic Keyboard" | InputDevice "Configured Mouse" | InputDevice "Generic Mouse" | EndSection | | Section "DRI" | Mode 0666 | EndSection | | ### END DEBCONF SECTION P.S. It's pretty obvious from the startx messages that the two lines of font directories I added to the config file are not working, but I'm sure that's not the source of my problem. -- Syd Bauman, EMT-Paramedic SGML & XML Programmer/Analyst North American Editor Brown University Women Writers Project Text Encoding Initiative [EMAIL PROTECTED] 401-863-3835 http://www.tei-c.org/