So who's the rocket scientist who decided that if XWindows gets installed, then XDM should be enabled?
I hadn't messed with my new debian PPC installation since I downloaded all the packages, but when I did download them, I retrieved the complete X11 package, then after the packages were installed a logged in via the tty screen which I guess runs under the Mac framebuffer, and was able to start X but then I found that the mouse didn't work. Imagine my suprise when I started my debian installation up again for the first time in a few days and found the XDM login prompt. Well, that's OK, just press ctrl-command-delete and it kills the x server, then I can login and - whoa! - the X server restarts and I have the XDM login prompt. I could log in alright, but I couldn't move the mouse. XWindows is not yet doing me a whole lot of good and what was really upsetting was that I could not log in at the console to disable it. I tried to telnet in from another machine but there was no telnet server. Ah, but I had installed ssh - but debian installs ssh1 and my other machine had ssh2. So I forcibly rebooted it and brought it up single user mode and started removing the xdm startup scripts from the /etc/rc*.d/ directories. Please, please, please whoever is responsible for maintaining these packages don't install a startup script that's going to render a user's system unusable until the user has had the opportunity to verify that it works on their own, personal, particular system. Mike -- Michael D. Crawford GoingWare Inc. - Expert Software Development and Consulting http://www.goingware.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tilting at Windmills for a Better Tomorrow.