Perhaps we should

1. Not ship with EDITOR/PAGER set to anything by default (well written old
   standalone programs should then default to vi and more, or get a bug
   report).

2. Always honor EDITOR/PAGER if they are set.

3. Make sure GNOME programs can be set up to launch a different editor
   than $EDITOR/$PAGER with user intervention.

This approach translate as "if I don't know whats going on, give me the
upstream author's default, otherwise, give me my favorite editor unless
I've already specified that it doesn't work well for this application".

Britton Kerin
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Bill Allombert wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 01:28:06AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 07:51:00PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > > @@ -7349,11 +7352,13 @@
> > >   </p>
> > >
> > >   <p>
> > > -   Thus, every program that launches an editor or pager must
> > > -   use the EDITOR or PAGER environment variable to determine
> > > -   the editor or pager the user wishes to use.  If these
> > > -   variables are not set, the programs <file>/usr/bin/editor</file>
> > > -   and <file>/usr/bin/pager</file> should be used, respectively.
> > > +   Thus, every program without an internal preference that
> > > +   launches an editor or pager must use the EDITOR or PAGER
> > > +   environment variable to determine the editor or pager the
> > > +   user wishes to use.  If these variables are not set, the
> > > +   programs <file>/usr/bin/editor</file>
> > > +   and <file>/usr/bin/pager</file> should be used,
> > > +   respectively.
> > >   </p>
> > >
> > >   <p>
> >
> > I think this is very bad. At the moment policy says that my EDITOR and
> > PAGER variables have priority over what random programs think is a good
> > idea, which I think is excellent. If programs get to pick a default that
> > overrides my EDITOR and PAGER then it all degenerates into chaos.
>
> I concurr. This will be a massive step backward providing useful
> default.
>
> > If what you really meant was that the order is as follows:
> >
> >   * EDITOR/PAGER
> >   * program's preferred editor or pager
> >   * /usr/bin/editor or /usr/bin/pager
> >
> > ... then that would be slightly better; it dilutes the effectiveness of
> > the editor and pager alternatives, but that might not be *too* bad. It's
> > late here so I haven't fully thought it through.
>
> It will be broken: users will get random program lauched unless they
> set $EDITOR/$PAGER/$BROWSER. This is not a sane default, this is much
> better to consistantly launch the same editor, whatever it is.
> User will get used to it or will set EDITOR to their liking.
> Nothing is more confusing that getting presented with an different
> editor each time.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Bill. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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>
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