>> On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:02:20 -0800,
>> Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

 > On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 11:55:52AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 >> Firstly, this is not broad enough, saying that communicating to
 >> the user by hand encompoassed all possible means of communicating,

 > No, it's simply technically meaningless.  To me, "by hand" implies,
 > "without the use of a computer" (as in, "I balance my checkbook by
 > hand").

 >> not just stdio.

 > Well, I'm sorry - obviously I don't know what "by hand" is supposed
 > to mean.  

 > Why don't you tell me what it *does* mean (or what you think it's
 > supposed to mean), and I'll see if I can come up with some decent
 > wording for that.

         *sigh*.
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>From The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing (12 Sep 2002) [foldoc]:

  by hand
  
     1. Said of an operation (especially a repetitive, trivial,
     and/or tedious one) that ought to be performed automatically
     by the computer, but which a hacker instead has to step
     tediously through.  "My mailer doesn't have a command to
     include the text of the message I'm replying to, so I have to
     do it by hand."  This does not necessarily mean the speaker
     has to retype a copy of the message; it might refer to, say,
     dropping into a subshell from the mailer, making a copy of
     one's mailbox file, reading that into an editor, locating the
     top and bottom of the message in question, deleting the rest
     of the file, inserting ">" characters on each line, writing
     the file, leaving the editor, returning to the mailer, reading
     the file in, and later remembering to delete the file.
     Compare {eyeball search}.
  
     2. By extension, writing code which does something in an
     explicit or low-level way for which a presupplied library
     routine ought to have been available.  "This cretinous
     {B-tree} library doesn't supply a decent iterator, so I'm
     having to walk the trees by hand."
  ======================================================================

        (I don't think walking a tree by hand requires you to go
 outside and climb something made out of wood)


        " writing code which does something in an explicit or
 low-level way for which a presupplied mechanism exists".

        OK?

        manoj
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